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Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« on: June 15, 2009, 08:36:07 PM »
Hi,
When I put my A1200 in a tower I used IDEfix97 to install a CD-ROM and everything worked fine. Last year I put the A1200 back in it's original case. Last week I tried to put a CD-ROM in an A4000. The boot drive is on the IDE connector, I have an Octagon SCSI card which works with a Quantum hard drive (id #2). If I replace the HD with a CD-ROM and install IDEfix it works perfectly until I reboot, then it no longer shows any CD I put in the drive. The same thing happens if I install an IDE CDROM, click install, it finds the drive, reads the CD"s until I reboot. System has 3.1 roms & Workbench. I used to be much better with Amigas 10 years ago!!!
Thanks for any ideas.
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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 08:44:14 PM »
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Hi,
When I put my A1200 in a tower I used IDEfix97 to install a CD-ROM and everything worked fine. Last year I put the A1200 back in it's original case. Last week I tried to put a CD-ROM in an A4000. The boot drive is on the IDE connector, I have an Octagon SCSI card which works with a Quantum hard drive (id #2). If I replace the HD with a CD-ROM and install IDEfix it works perfectly until I reboot, then it no longer shows any CD I put in the drive. The same thing happens if I install an IDE CDROM, click install, it finds the drive, reads the CD"s until I reboot. System has 3.1 roms & Workbench. I used to be much better with Amigas 10 years ago!!!
Thanks for any ideas.
Len

When you've installed IDEfix, check if there is a CD0 or CD1 etc. file in DHx:Storage/Dosdrivers. If so, move it to Dhx: Devs/Dosdrivers.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 01:49:36 AM »
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When you've installed IDEfix, check if there is a CD0 or CD1 etc. file in DHx:Storage/Dosdrivers. If so, move it to Dhx: Devs/Dosdrivers.


Hi,
I moved CD0 to the Devs/Dosdrivers drawer, it still didn't see the CD. If I click on the CD0 icon the CD works. There must be a way to automatically mount the drive without digging through several drawers to click on the icon.
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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 02:33:49 AM »
Did you reboot the amiga when you moved the file? There should be a mount command in your startup-sequence that mounts everything in DEVS:dosdrivers when
you startup the amiga.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2009, 03:29:35 AM »
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Hi,
When I put my A1200 in a tower I used IDEfix97 to install a CD-ROM and everything worked fine. Last year I put the A1200 back in it's original case. Last week I tried to put a CD-ROM in an A4000. The boot drive is on the IDE connector, I have an Octagon SCSI card which works with a Quantum hard drive (id #2). If I replace the HD with a CD-ROM and install IDEfix it works perfectly until I reboot, then it no longer shows any CD I put in the drive. The same thing happens if I install an IDE CDROM, click install, it finds the drive, reads the CD"s until I reboot. System has 3.1 roms & Workbench. I used to be much better with Amigas 10 years ago!!!
Thanks for any ideas.
Len


I think it may have something to do with the swapping of the hard drive and cdrom to different interfaces.  What I would do is start from fresh after deciding which hard drive will be the boot drive and if you will use an IDE CDROM or SCSI CDROM on the Octagon.  i would then delete any Cd dosdrivers, and any reference to idefix in your startup or user startup.  Then install IDEFIX again, it should pick up your CDROM on either the IDE interface or on the octagon (i think its octagon.device or octagonscsi.device).  If you have a hard drive on the octagon it will pick that up as well, i think.  Also check if you have the latest octagon ROM, version 8 i think is the latest, and this was on the net somewhere, octapussy was its name I think
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 03:47:02 PM »
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I think it may have something to do with the swapping of the hard drive and cdrom to different interfaces.  What I would do is start from fresh after deciding which hard drive will be the boot drive and if you will use an IDE CDROM or SCSI CDROM on the Octagon.  i would then delete any Cd dosdrivers, and any reference to idefix in your startup or user startup.  Then install IDEFIX again, it should pick up your CDROM on either the IDE interface or on the octagon (i think its octagon.device or octagonscsi.device).  If you have a hard drive on the octagon it will pick that up as well, i think.  Also check if you have the latest octagon ROM, version 8 i think is the latest, and this was on the net somewhere, octapussy was its name I think


Hi,
I did an uninstall of IDEfix, then reinstalled the software. I'm a little unsure about how to delete stuff in the startup sequence :-(. Right now I'm using the SCSI drive and can make it work by opening the Devs/Dosdrivers drawer and clicking on CD0, but as soon as I reboot I have to do it again.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 09:36:33 AM »
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Hi,
I did an uninstall of IDEfix, then reinstalled the software. I'm a little unsure about how to delete stuff in the startup sequence :-(. Right now I'm using the SCSI drive and can make it work by opening the Devs/Dosdrivers drawer and clicking on CD0, but as soon as I reboot I have to do it again.

Check if the following is in your startup-sequence:
 
c:mount >NIL: Devs:dosdrivers/~(#?.info)
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 10:44:07 AM »
Also check the following in IDEfixprefs:
 
Set the "Unit Mount" parameter either to "Auto Detect"
or "CD Mount". Make sure, that "ATAPI enabled" is checked.
Also make sure "WaitDriveReady" option is checked.
 
Save your changes and reboot.
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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2009, 03:01:21 AM »
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Also check the following in IDEfixprefs:
 
Set the "Unit Mount" parameter either to "Auto Detect"
or "CD Mount". Make sure, that "ATAPI enabled" is checked.
Also make sure "WaitDriveReady" option is checked.
 
Save your changes and reboot.

Hi,
The startup has the mount command. I made the changes in the IDEfixprefs and now the computer won't boot :-(. I was able to boot from a floppy, but when I tried to change the prefs back it keeps trying to write to my floppy. I guess I should have quit while I was ahead!!
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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 03:12:06 AM »
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Hi,
The startup has the mount command. I made the changes in the IDEfixprefs and now the computer won't boot :-(. I was able to boot from a floppy, but when I tried to change the prefs back it keeps trying to write to my floppy. I guess I should have quit while I was ahead!!
Len
It might be that startup takes a little longer.
 
If it really doesn't want to boot at all.
 
Power on the system and press both mousebuttons.
 
Choose 'boot without startup-sequence'
 
System boots up in CLi: in cli type :
ed s:startup-sequence
 
goto line with c:idefix and place a ';' before it.
 
Now press escape and then 'x' and press enter
 
now reboot. idefix should be disabled now.
 
start idefix prefs and set it to the old settings and save.
 
ed s:startup-sequence again and remove the ';'
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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2009, 03:29:49 AM »
you can also boot without startup-sequence and type:
 
delete sys:Prefs/idefix.prefs
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2009, 03:47:14 AM »
Just reread your post. Since you have the CDROM on your oktagon, you don't even need idefix.
Just comment out c:idefix in your startup-seq (by putting a ';' before it), but don't uninstall idefix.
You only need the CDROM filesystem and mountfile that comes with the ide-fix installation package.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2009, 04:20:40 AM »
Maybe the problem is that when your system boots, the CDROM is still initializing (you can notice this by a blinking led on your cdrom-drive) when the mount command is executed, and therefore the mount fails.
Maybe if you added a wait command before the mount-command, it will mount the CDROM correctly (for example 'wait 5').
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2009, 05:17:03 AM »
Its a little confusing as to what your hardware set up now is.  So, is your  cdrom attached to the IDE interface or to the Octagon ie are using the IDE CDROM or a SCSI one?
Where is your boot hard drive, on the IDE or the octagon?

Simplest option that I've had is to have nothing on the octagon, have a your boot hard drive as master on the internal IDE, and have the IDE CDROM as slave on the same IDE cable as the boot hard drive.  Then install IDEFix.  This will pick up the CDrom and install a driver in devs/dosdrivers and it will call it CD0:   There will also be a c:idefix command in s/startup-sequence. In your s/startup-sequence file make sure you have a binddrivers command.  Then install a hard drive to the octagon if you want.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 CD-ROM
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2009, 10:25:01 PM »
Hi again,
I edited the startup-sequence and got it working again. I went back to the IDE interface and got the IDE CDROM to be reconized, so everything seemed to be going well....until it started flashing green or purple screens on atempting to boot. I finally got it to boot by replaceng the Warp Engine with a 68030 board then I lost all Fast Ram!! This thing must have a curse on it!!!