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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2009, 02:13:47 PM »
@AmigaMance :
Now your "Forgive me if the above post is Amiga related." makes more sense to me! :lol:
You're truly a "Defender of the Faith"...

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2009, 02:24:19 PM »
I didn't voted because to me a poll with just an option is useless...

Quote from: ami_stuff;511542
My intention was to get an input from Classic users. This "pool" was the easiest way to get it, because not everyone likes to add replies to the topic.

I wonder why you need to be "publicly rewarded", really isn't enough with the downloads count !?

If you enjoy porting stuff, then continue doing it!, else...

it's as simple as that.

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It seems that some of the people just don't like to see any progress under m68k platform

And why do you bother? it's just some people :)
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2009, 02:25:21 PM »
at v74.
there is nothing to thank me for. i have done nothing except for some simple tests for ami_stuff, all thanks should go to him and others like bernd_r or arti.
btw. at ami_stuff: i too think you shouldnt overreact.there is nothing wrong about this thread/people voicing personal opinions. is it?
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2009, 02:32:20 PM »
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I wonder why you need to be "publicly rewarded", really isn't enough with the downloads count !?


Of course not. It's the same like when you store your ported software on your own HDD.

No feedback, bugs reports, anything = no fun. ;)

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at ami_stuff: i too think you shouldnt overreact.there is nothing wrong about this thread/people voicing personal opinions. is it?


Yes, but when someone don't want to use the software, why he have a need to "express himself" in a negative way?
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2009, 02:41:02 PM »
@ ami_stuff && @wawrzon

Maybe "discontinued" word posted here is kindda abuse...

What I mean is there's NEW hardware for OS4, there's MOS, both under development.
If we talk "ports" or "emulation", why no AmiCygnix option in a poll??

There are three ways for new Amiga apps.  Native (AOS4/MOS/AROS), "ports" (i.e. running 3.x in 4.x, whatsoever) or Linux ports (AmiCygnix).  It is easy to port stuff, but if the poll question was about "a need for new apps", I can firmly say: we need new apps for new systems!  Why not porting backwards to 3.x then??  Why thinking of some limited API when you 've got the API (AOS4/MOS/AROS)??

So I say: first we need new great apps WORKING on new Amigas, then ported backwards.  Hey, that's an option, isn't it?

And BTW now I use AmigaSYS/AmiKIT so UAE limited to 3.x research :sad: I am in a serious debt, getting some funds, I can forget about new machines BUT wait until something shows up on my PPCMini :lol:

I plan to write a spreadsheet (native first!!), thought of Hollywood but since I'm forced to parse MS OLE files, I'll try what I eventually get on Mini and use e.g. AmiDevCPP or sth.  My spreadsheet on mac was halted by infamous Apple Numbers, now it is Amiga's turn for its spreadsheet.  And I mean it! :lol:
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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2009, 02:48:26 PM »
Quote from: ami_stuff;511590
Of course not. It's the same like when you store your ported software on your own HDD.

:confused:

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No feedback, bugs reports, anything = no fun. ;)


Ok, but you are asking to maintain uptodate stuff, aren't you?

The downloads count should give you that answer, imo.

If you port something which get 10 downloads, and some other software which get 2000 downloads, i think it's obvious on which of them you should spent more time maintaining it up-to-date. :)
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2009, 02:53:06 PM »
IMHO, there's still "need" for AmigaOS software, as some people use an Amiga/Amiga clone (be it an AmigaOne, a Pegasos or perhaps even a Sam or a 68k one, I don't know for AROS) as their primary computer. For some of them native PPC/x86 sw is preferred, but since OS4 and Mos have built-in 68k emulation, 68k software would be also welcome: e.g. AmiGift or HDRec.

What I'd need lately is a video editing software, a Flash plugin (both are under development anyway), a version of Lha which correctly handles archives with thousands of files (both OS4 and 68k versions have problems, at least under OS4, while LZX seems to work fine), and drivers and a simple application for USB webcams.

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2009, 02:56:58 PM »
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If you port something which get 10 downloads, and some other software which get 2000 downloads, i think it's obvious on which of them you should spent more time maintaining it up-to-date. :)


What if a single person downloads a program for 2000 times since he everytime accidentally deleted it? ;-)

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2009, 03:07:18 PM »
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What if a single person downloads a program for 2000 times since he everytime accidentally deleted it? ;-)

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hehe, well... any decent counter shouldn't increase further the count from a single person ;-)
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2009, 03:38:28 PM »
Public reward or acclaim is most certainly a fine thing!And it costs  nothing.
 
 Anyone going to the effort of porting  or writing freeware or software deserves our applause at the very least.

 Anyone who expects others to devote much time and programming effort and skill  solely for the  barely vicarious thrill of seeing a download counter increment knows little of human nature.
 
 I "vote" for  public applause of all shareware/freeware/port  writers and bet at least token  gifts of money or items might serve as further encouragement;if someone writes a port of a modern browser limited only by the hardware in our old Amigas then I'd happily send him or her $10(and so should the other hypothetical 1999 downloaders).
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2009, 03:49:00 PM »
I love rhetorical questions :-)
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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2009, 04:13:57 PM »
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Public reward or acclaim is most certainly a fine thing!And it costs  nothing.

indeed, if you are with lacks of ego ;)

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Anyone going to the effort of porting  or writing freeware or software deserves our applause at the very least.

Thanks :D

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Anyone who expects others to devote much time and programming effort and skill  solely for the  barely vicarious thrill of seeing a download counter increment knows little of human nature.

Well... i always was a little bit anti-social.. :p

Seriously, re-check the intention explained for this poll, it was not intended to get a dozen posts from users, just numeric results, something which is already obtained checking the downloads counter.
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2009, 04:15:39 PM »
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I love rhetorical questions :-)

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2009, 04:51:37 PM »
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indeed, if you are with lacks of ego ;)


http://amiga.sourceforge.net/?showpackage=unrar

...and for what is that button on the right side? Isn't download counter enough? :lol:

"Help us help you!" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2009, 05:06:45 PM »
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http://amiga.sourceforge.net/?showpackage=unrar

...and for what is that button on the right side? Isn't download counter enough? :lol:


:confused::confused::confused:

You're confusing things, my friend. i see no relation at all between what we was discussing, and what you are saying now.

Well, unless you're indirectly requesting money to continue updating your ports.
 

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Re: Is there any need for up-to-date software for AOS 3.x?
« Reply #44 from previous page: June 16, 2009, 05:17:33 PM »
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:confused::confused::confused:

You're confusing things, my friend. i see no relation at all between what we was discussing, and what you are saying now.


As I understand you want to tell me that I should be happy because I see a increasing download counter and I shouldn't ask users if they would like to see more software like I already ported (this is some kind of reward when they answer yes), but at the same time you ask users INDIRECTLY for reward by placing PayPal button on your web page (Help us help you!). This is a bit stange. Why is there a PayPal button when you don't feel any need for reward? Download counter should be enough and you should be happy because of incrasing download counter, isn't it? There is no need for ANY other reward, right?

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Well, unless you're indirectly requesting money to continue updating your ports.

Not at all.
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