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Amiga 4000 Help
« on: June 11, 2009, 06:16:05 AM »
Hello everyone, Im new to this forum and this is my first post.  I hope I dont make an ass of myself :)  Im pretty new to Amiga, but I own 3x 2000's and 1x 4000/040.

I recently picked up this 4000/040 and know nothing about it.  I purchased a 1950 monitor & a vga adapter with it but cannot get the monitor to sync correctly.  I have posted pix.

While im at it, I was wondering where I can get the 3.1 roms for it and a keyboard.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jon
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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 06:29:44 AM »
Well I don't know if this will truly help, but Big Book of Amiga Hardware had this to say about the 1950.

"Common Problems

A sync problem may be caused by the monitor detecting sync on the Green input and then disabling the horizontal and vertical sync inputs. Removing the 10K R854 resistor or the 10uf C812 capacitor on the small vertical board may fix this. It may also cause problems of its own, so be warned. The analog/TTL switch appears to be prone to failure. However, if switching the switch brings back the picture, it may actually be that the 74LS123 (IC805) on the same board is failing. The suggested course of action is to replace (or at least resolder) this chip first, since it's a commonly available part. A defect in the way the 74LS123 is mounted may be present; there should be +5V on pin 3, but the way the chip is mounted or the board is manufactured, it may be intermittent. There should be a PCB trace between pin 3 and pin 16, however, pin 3 is not soldered to this trace, but only friction-fit (non-plated-through holes?). When the analog switch is moved, it causes intermittent contact between pin 3 and the trace. A soldered jumper to pin 16 is an easy way to fix this, or you may be able to solder to the trace already present. Another common problem is the failure of a multifunction sync chip. Replacements should be available from Sony. The high-voltage boards may crack; this can be one cause of the monitor that starts working when you hit it. A 1 megohm resistor in the second power supply's startup circuit goes bad, causing the monitor to remain dark. Replacing the resistor with a higher wattage one may help prevent the problem in the future."

If I understand what they are saying, it appears that a syncing problem is a common issue with the 1950 monitors.  Do you have any 1084's or other commodore monitors you can check to make certain that there isn't something wrong with the video output?  Also you might want to check and see what monitor you are using in the prefs screenmode section.  Might be set from something that won't display on that monitor.
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 06:32:05 AM »
Well, I have a 1080, 1084 and a 1084s.  Those all seem to be RGB monitors.  Can I hook up a A4000 to RGB?    I do have the cables, but I cant see anything when using those monitors.

Jon


After reinstalling Workbench 3.0 I was able to use the 1084.

I still need the newest ROM available for this along with a keyboard, please email me if you have one or both available. thanks
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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2009, 06:38:12 AM »
Hey Jon, welcome:)

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2009, 06:42:29 AM »
Thanks again Scott for the disks!

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2009, 06:47:46 AM »
The display problem could be with the 1950 monitor not the A4000.  Do you have another monitor?
Use 1084 monitor.  Before using it, set workbench screen to something low like 320 by something...
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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2009, 06:52:44 AM »
Plug it into another monitor on DoublePal/NTSC res. Also plug a different computer into that monitor.
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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2009, 06:56:53 AM »
Not a problem:) Anytime!!
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2009, 07:01:36 AM »
you said that you didn't get a picture at all when you attached a 1084 to it?  Kinda sounds like you had the screenmode set to DBLNTSC or DBLPAL which would make the screen out of range of the old 1084.  After you reinstalled 3.0 it reset the monitor screen mode to either NTSC or PAL.  the 1950 should sync as low as 15KHz, so now that you have reinstalled *edit* the OS, try hooking the 1950 back up and see if you get a picture.

Sorry, left some words out.

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 07:05:47 AM »
Here is what has happened:

I managed to get a 1084 to work, but im still curious why im having probs with the 1950.

According to the VGA adapter instructions, I am to drag the different frequency files (DBLPal, DBLNTSC, Euro72, Super72, Multiscan and VGAONLY) into the Devs/Monitors drawer.

The strange thing is, after re-booting, I dont see the new DISPLAY MODES listed.

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 07:29:46 AM »
Can you send a screenshot of your monitor drawer?
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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2009, 07:30:08 AM »
Jon,

Looks like this issue has come up before. This link was posted with not much reply. Just thought that was courious.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40893

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2009, 10:29:21 AM »
Hi,

see http://wonkity.com/~wblock/a4000hard/main.html

For lots of info about the A4000.

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2009, 11:14:12 AM »
Here's additional information available:
http://amiga.serveftp.net/
 

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Re: Amiga 4000 Help
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2009, 11:17:26 PM »
Thanks for the help! I ended up fixing it.

I formatted the HD, reinstalled Workbench 3.0.
Dragged all the video modes into the dev/monitors directory on workbench
and its perfectly clear now!

thanks

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