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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #344 from previous page: June 29, 2009, 12:51:32 PM »
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no it is not bias if there is a logical reason it is not valid. the thing is you were given instructions on how to redo the test to make the data valid. you ignored that and are still assuming that you are the only one that is right. that to me IS bias.


And I have logical reasons why you can have data that requires millisecond response which is SUPERIOR to billions of experiments.

You are biased.  You can't see the logic for example in someone pressing a fire button that's a millisecond apart from him turning the joystick.  It can happen.  That's all you have to acknowledge.  People who can't do that after many times stating the reasons and not even refuting the logic are biased.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #345 on: June 29, 2009, 12:52:43 PM »
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I wouldn't call your data rubbish. I'm from the southern United States, the closest I can call it is, "crap" and not violate the site rules. You ran a task on the machine that polled the port while a game was running. This guarantees the timing is completely inaccurate. But who knows right? You weren't even clear about whether this data came from sampling an atari or an amiga. Who cares though, you have less than 1ms state changes in your data. That's physically impossible from a biomechanic perspective. You measure signal bounce from the superior joy port hanging off a Denise chip who's input pins tie directly to mechanical switches.


You are baised as well then.  You are one of those sick people who play pathological games on people by distorting their REP points by assuming YOU KNOW BETTER than them although you may be in more ignorance than the person you pass judgement on.  I don't give a crap about your REP bullcrap.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #346 on: June 29, 2009, 12:53:57 PM »
Quote from: Fanscale;513231
@the leander

OMG I laughed for a good 5 minutes before I could type this.

WHA wha WHA wha WHA wha! LOL!


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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #347 on: June 29, 2009, 12:54:36 PM »
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You are baised as well then.  You are one of those sick people who play pathological games on people by distorting their REP points by assuming YOU KNOW BETTER than them although you may be in more ignorance than the person you pass judgement on.  I don't give a crap about your REP bullcrap.


What are you talking about? Rep points dont exist anymore. Keep up will ya. :laughing:
 

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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #348 on: June 29, 2009, 12:56:00 PM »
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Clearly you didn't, because otherwise you would have stopped embarrassing yourself.

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Straw-man arguments, I don't need to reply to.  You can't follow the logic, that's your problem.

Sticks and stones can break my bones, words don't hurt.  Get a clue and speak something logical.  Take your straw-man bullcrap and keep it for yourself.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #349 on: June 29, 2009, 12:58:47 PM »
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This has been demonstrated to be false.
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Wrong.

>And again, we have someone here who has shown that what you claim is not so. We have the manuals that explain in ball aching detail as to why you are wrong and multiple users of this side giving verifiable facts as to where those incompatabilities lay. And you've ignored it all.

No, you have ignored it all.  I also showed manuals and I also ran code that works.  You are biased AGAIN for siding with one claim without proof.

>It is utter rubbish for the reasons already explained to you.

If that's your reason, then stop replying.  Since it's already explained to me and you don't have the brains to refute the clear cut logic, then stop replying and proving my claim that you are biased.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #350 on: June 29, 2009, 01:00:50 PM »
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What are you talking about? Rep points dont exist anymore. Keep up will ya. :laughing:


Sorry, I was away for a few days; perhaps, I should stay away -- nothing rational only Hammer took it logically and showed how PC may be able to sample joystick at 1Khz.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #351 on: June 29, 2009, 01:06:41 PM »
@all Maybe everyone should just take a chill pill and drop the argument. It's not as if anyone is going to be swayed to either side so let's enjoy the new site and discuss things that mutually interest us without letting them get personal or acrimonious? :confused:

Guys you do know that there is an ignore feature on the site don't you? Just activate that if you don't like a particular users posts. End of problem.:)
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #352 on: June 29, 2009, 01:13:09 PM »
Tags:
amiga , bullcrap , circle jerking , cloud cuckoo land , complete bollocks , denial , emulation , fantasy , flamefest , real , sit on the joystick , troll , winuae

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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #353 on: June 29, 2009, 02:27:13 PM »
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You are baised as well then.  You are one of those sick people who play pathological games on people by distorting their REP points by assuming YOU KNOW BETTER than them although you may be in more ignorance than the person you pass judgement on.  I don't give a crap about your REP bullcrap.


hahah! :laughing: You've sunk to all new lows. This is what you come up with when you can't admit that you sample signal bounce. Truly pathetic. You only got one -1 from me, I'd guess you got a lot from others. You deserved them all.
 

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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #354 on: June 30, 2009, 12:48:39 AM »
Quote from: amigaksi;513810
She is like a child who plays name-calling and just saying "No."


And thus, amigaksi's powers of observation are proven beyond any reasonable doubt.



Quote from: amigaksi;513813
You can't follow the logic, that's your problem.


This board has seen your "logic". What we have asked for (and you've failed to provide, instead prefering to slime out of points either by talking about something else entirely or by accusations of bias, lacking objectivity, emotional unsound and/or insane), is viable documantary evidence.

Something that you have singularly refused to provide.

Quote from: amigaksi;513813
Get a clue and speak something logical.




Quote from: amigaksi;513815
I also showed manuals and I also ran code that works.


You misspelled brochure and fails.

Your whole argument in a nutshell:



Quote from: amigaksi;513815
stop replying and proving my claim that you are biased.


And this ladies and gentlmen is what he's been reduced to: Demanding anyone who disagrees with him to be silent or face threats against their character.

"Science, or at least, good science is a free exchange of ideas, anything else is a kind of tyranny." - Stephen Fry.

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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #355 on: June 30, 2009, 03:33:52 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


:roflmao:


Where's the popcorn emoticon when you need it!


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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #356 on: June 30, 2009, 09:02:32 AM »
Quote from: amigaksi;513816
Sorry, I was away for a few days; perhaps, I should stay away -- nothing rational only Hammer took it logically and showed how PC may be able to sample joystick at 1Khz.

Well, there's a *market* for a fast gaming mouse. I don't see a business case for a fast digital joystick.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #357 on: June 30, 2009, 04:11:55 PM »
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You are baised as well then.  You are one of those sick people who play pathological games on people by distorting their REP points by assuming YOU KNOW BETTER than them although you may be in more ignorance than the person you pass judgement on.  I don't give a crap about your REP bullcrap.


I was mistaken in my previous response to this comment. I thought I had left amagiski a -1. Turns out I didn't. I had only dropped on negative, and took a screen capture of it when I did.



It's sad to see a useful site feature dropped because of a few cry babies who blame everyone else for their problems.
 

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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #358 on: July 01, 2009, 05:15:49 AM »
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hahah! :laughing: You've sunk to all new lows. This is what you come up with when you can't admit that you sample signal bounce. Truly pathetic. You only got one -1 from me, I'd guess you got a lot from others. You deserved them all.


You should answer the question I posted to you in the other thread regarding this bounce before just blaming someone.  You can't take part of the data and claim it's all noise.  It works PERFECTLY in getting you to bridge 2 in River-raid.  

I wasn't blaming you for my rep points but drew the conclusion from your own postings.  Once again you speculated something just like with your biased analysis of the joystick data.
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Re: real amiga vs winuae
« Reply #359 on: July 01, 2009, 05:18:37 AM »
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Tags:
amiga , bullcrap , circle jerking , cloud cuckoo land , complete bollocks , denial , emulation , fantasy , flamefest , real , sit on the joystick , troll , winuae

:lol:


To put it into context, anyone thinking or stating that winuae or any other amiga emulator is a real amiga is talking all bullcrap, circle jerking, in cloud cuckoo land, complete bollocks, in reality denial (in fantasy land), enjoys flamefest, trolling, and/or does not understand emulation.  He's better off sitting on a joystick to try to wake himself up.
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