Windows-hosted AROS

[deadwood]

Pavel Fedin published a first beta build of his Windows-hosted port of AROS. A Windows-hosted port is an executable which brings you AROS experience under Windows without need of any virtual machine.

The package can be downloaded from AROS Downloads.

If you are interested in technical details, please the follow thread on Aros-exec.

The bounty for Windows-hosted AROS is still open for donations: Bounty page

[tonyyeb]

Great stuff!!

[spihunter]

Wow, instant boot!. Crashed out after a couple minutes though. P4 WinXP

[4pLaY]

Well it is a first beta, Sonic is working on it a lot so i suppose there will be new changes more or less daily or at least weekly.

[tft666]

How the hell do you start it?
Isnt it just running the AROSBootstrap.exe file in AROS\Boot? Or did I miss a meeting?

C:\AROS\boot>arosbootstrap
[Bootstrap] unable to open kernel "boot\aros-mingw32"

[Mazze]

Start it by:
boot\arosbootstrap

(This will probably change with the next release)

[DiskDoctor]

Mazze  Wrote

Start it by:
boot\arosbootstrap

This sucks.

That's what I did.  I started in AROS folder on my disk but all I get is notification of missing files and a dialog.  Unfortunately I cannot quote the info since the whole thing eats out the whole processor so the only possible thing to do is to kill it.

Why no readme file?  Nothing on the webpage either.  Not to mention an installer.  Is this so hard to make one??  This seems no point to donate such stuff since it's irresponsible to release this and waste my time.

Is this the Linux thing or Windows or what?

BTW I'm (for the time being) WinXP Pro SP2 / 1GB

[Manu]

It's a early beta don't expect it to work on all hardware out there yet. I was lucky and I got it running, yours didn't. What is there more to say ? You don't need a readme for that.

[DiskDoctor]

Partially right but on the other hand, where's ANY information about ANY prerequisites??

Windows 7 is beta, all the Linux franchise is beta.  But man, you do not release alphas publicly!

This "binary bundle" with the "4Win" only sticker is no more than alpha to me...

[Amigamia]

Don't use it then until the beta or official release with a readme file. Geesh!!! Looks like someone had too much caffeine. :-D  :-P  :lol:

[mihcael]

@DiskDoctor

all I get is notification of missing files and a dialog

start it from command line, cd into the root folder of the extracted archive, then then start it, boot\AROSBootstrap.exe!! You should get some output if there is an error? (maybe)

or try the newer (2009-03-04) release that can be started by double cliking AROSBootstrap.exe directly, get it at the download link in the news artcile above!

Is this the Linux thing or Windows or what?

Windows-Hosted AROS?? AROS runing inside windows and using windows resources directly, grahpics, filesystem, memory...

There is no readme, it is early release just so peeps can try it!! and why would you want an installer? Extract and Run!!

Worked great for me!!  :-)

[DiskDoctor]

@ Amigamia

Don't use it then until the beta or official release with a readme file. Geesh!!! Looks like someone had too much caffeine.

It simply shouldn't be mentioned as beta!!  Betas get installed on the systems specified, and have bugs.  Alphas might install somewhere, dunno where and ain't sure if they do.

Distinguish these things, please.  Do not call an elephant an ant!  Well, horse maybe.

BTW  I don't drink coffee late evening, if it was because of something, it was whiskey then :-)

@ mihcael

Thanks for the advice, I'll try to try again.

    Is this the Linux thing or Windows or what?

Windows-Hosted AROS?? AROS runing inside windows and using windows resources directly, grahpics, filesystem, memory...

I meant aestetically; looks like this Linux thing to me.  Linux philosophy is what I fight all my life, actually because it wastes time and nerves.  As a matter of fact I'm forced to work under Linux (like now), I wanna be productive, I don't wanna be a local administrator, I want to be a user sometimes!

There is no readme, it is early release just so peeps can try it!! and why would you want an installer? Extract and Run!!

I was ironic about the installer.  But try this - extract all text in this very thread and zip it.  I guarantee the sensible readme file wouldn't take more than 20% of it.  So this is simply ignorance to me and treating me like an ***shole.  Shame.

[Manu]

Oh my, I guess it's always possible to bring something negative to everything if you really like.

There is a saying:
If you don’t want to get burned, then don’t play with fire.

That is something I knew DAY ONE I decided to not only be a lurker at AROS-Exec but instead decided to start tossing AROS around. I have had my share of frustration with AROS, but I already knew that when I started playing around with it.

It's free ! People use their spare time on it. AROS get's there in it's own pace. That should be understood the least. You speak about "ignorance", but I wonder if the ignorance isn't completely on your side ?

[ognix]

Hello everybody!
I know with the following comment I'll probably be "somehow insulted", but I want to express my opinion.

I'm not an AROS user (don't use/play with it regulary), but I support the idea behind it (if you read a some of my past posts in other threads).
But one thing that I don't like, or at least a thing that I consider a waste of time, is to propose AROS in various "flavours" (for virtual machines, for Windows, running natively, etc.).

Human resources are scarce (time and developers) and so I think that would be advisable to concentrate on one or two main projects, in my opinion the "native boot-off-a-bare PC" and maybe the real Amiga one (the 68k version).

Creating such various alternatives, or flavours, creates a mess in the already fractioned Amiga panorama (MorphOS, AmigaOS 3.X, AmigaOS 4.X, AROS, what else?  ).

Of course I have the maximum respect for developers involved in such AROS projects, something I couldn't manage for sure (knowledge, time, etc.), and because they do this manly for passion.

But please think over: this multiplying of alternatives is disorienting the few users even more!

Regards,
   Luca "OgniX".   \8^)

[DiskDoctor]

@ Manu

Oh my, I guess it's always possible to bring something negative to everything if you really like.

Instead replying my rational arguments, you keep moaning that I never should have mentioned the king is naked because once said, it ruined the whole world of his...

How the hell you think I like to write anything bad about AROS?  Well I don't but I've been honest all my life, alas know it is not easy, especially for some people to face it.  Actually you should have surmised that by downloading this AROS build, all I wanted was to check it out and start using.  As a matter of fact I got really interested with this iMica stuff as well... what are you on about???

There is a saying:
If you don’t want to get burned, then don’t play with fire.

Well I wasn't told it's a fire (alpha), instead I was told it is a piece of wood (beta) which turned to be on fire actually when I started playing with it... Got my point now?

That is something I knew DAY ONE I decided to not only be a lurker at AROS-Exec but instead decided to start tossing AROS around. I have had my share of frustration with AROS, but I already knew that when I started playing around with it.

Same as above.

It's free ! People use their spare time on it. AROS get's there in it's own pace. That should be understood the least.

So what???  Free meal for homeless is free, too, not making it any better!  There are things, too, of negative value, like thrash for example but it has nothing to do with attractiveness, does it?  I agree free stuff tends to rule in the price/quality measures but... again, as long as stuff works.

I do like AROS, all the Amiga stuff. I simply do not like being decieved, especially when my time gets wasted.  If you cannot understand this, well, this is the way you see the world, mine differs.

You speak about "ignorance", but I wonder if the ignorance isn't completely on your side ?

Touche!  Can you give ANY bloody argument upholding your statement like this?  Please, do not get personal while discussing stuff like AROS current dev. If this is hard to you, do not bother to discuss further at all.

Do you distinguish alpha from beta???  Are you aware on ANY QA expectations from each?  Please respond because it would simply stop this discussion I'm not gonna continue anyway.