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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2008, 09:58:39 PM »
I still don't get how a reptile can have breasts :-?.

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2008, 10:10:10 PM »
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Even small unknown operating systems like SkyOS have Firefox.


Yet for $10,000 it couldn't be ported to the Amiga. Pretty much says that it'll never be ported, eh? I don't think that more money is going to make it happen.

Anyway, I'd prefer WebKit to be ported and a small Amiga-like webbrowser created around it.
 

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2008, 10:37:10 PM »
@Hattig

Webkit is awesome too! Firefox will be ported, it is only a matter of time.
 

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Enter Copernicus, again.
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2008, 11:38:59 PM »
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A paradigm shift occurred in the Amiga market and has been going on ever since.


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Re: Enter Copernicus, again.
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2008, 12:52:52 AM »
The paradigm shift was people donating money to have software developed/ported to Amiga type systems. Before AmiZilla you did not see much of this.
 

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2008, 01:34:28 AM »
I was going to (yet again) post my views of the matter, but jorkany did so good of a job, why bother... ;-)

Needless to say the project is quite dead. Wishful thinking or repeating "it will get ported" doesn't actually get anything done, developers do. There is so much work involved that the bounty should be something around 10x for anyone to take semi-serious look. And even then, the totally unrealistic bounty rules make it nearly impossible to complete anyway.
 

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Re: Enter Copernicus, again.
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2008, 01:37:25 AM »
The site looks nice, Bill. jorkany did have some good points, but I'm registering an "ouch!" in sympathy. ;-)

I'd still love to see FireFox on the Amiga, but I'm reminded of running Internet Explorer on my old iPaq. I finally broke down and bought an 802.11b SDIO card to browse over my local wireless network. And what do you know, Apple releases the iPhone/iPod Touch a few months later. I haven't touched the iPaq since. While I think FireFox will eventually make it, just as WebKit has, I worry that the user experience will be anything but stellar.

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I agree with Piru re: the rules. There's some pretty crazy stuff in there. It's hard enough to get a few hundreds lines of code shared between the Amiga variants, let alone a project the size of Mozilla.

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2008, 01:42:49 AM »
@Piru

Let's live in dreamland and assume I win the lottery.

How long would I need to pay a small team of say 4 developers to achieve such a task and would $250k cover it?
 

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Re: Enter Copernicus, again.
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2008, 01:53:05 AM »
@Trev

Firefox is open source software and in the spirit of open source anyone is welcome to write up a better set of guidelines/rules. Submit it to us and if everyone likes it we can update our guidelines no problem. AmiZilla is a contest sponsored by DiscreetFX to help Amiga OS, MorphOS & AROS. Unlike a certain company we will not name we don't mind helping Amiga type systems move forward and be successful.

@ajlwalker

You should ask the developers on the mailing list that question.
 

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2008, 02:04:02 AM »
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How long would I need to pay a small team of say 4 developers to achieve such a task and would $250k cover it?

Lets just say they would likely get better paid doing regular programming work.
 

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Re: Enter Copernicus, again.
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2008, 02:12:45 AM »
I don't see this mentioned often but here we go:

One nasty side of money being involved in a project is that it can also have negative effects. This would be so large project that it is unlikely that one single person could complete even part of it. The team members can get into nasty fights over how the money should be split, and different teams will keep the source to themselves in fear someone else might use it and get ahead (with GPL project that'd mean no betas to outsiders.. or anyone could request src).

As soon as someone gets to arbitrarily split the money, things will go sour. Friendships have ended this way.
 

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Re: Enter Copernicus, again.
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2008, 02:48:18 PM »
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It almost sounds like you have some experience with these kinds of problems. :-D
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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2008, 04:30:20 PM »
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There is so much work involved that the bounty should be something around 10x for anyone to take semi-serious look.


What work is involved?

If it were running on a X server, what difference would that make to the amount of work required?

If there was a GDK/GTK port, what difference would that make to the amount of work required?
 

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2008, 03:38:44 AM »
@ jorkany

I'd prefer the Rule to be: Compiles and runs on OS 3.1, as not everyone has 3.9- most members of the AmiZilla Team don't for example.

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2008, 05:19:38 AM »
@Ants

But isnt Firefox a bit to heavy for majority of classic Amigas? My Firefox now consumes 92.5mb of memory (which itself is fking hilarious.. lightweight my ass)
 

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Re: New AmiZilla Website
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 13, 2008, 06:31:01 AM »
Yes, it's doubtful you'll have a full-featured Firefox running in 2 megs (or less) or RAM.