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APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« on: May 16, 2008, 01:48:49 AM »
It is already known that we try to reprint the English Amiga Guru Book by Ralph Babel.
Some additions were also planned to the original book.



The German Amiga Guru Book is available for some time now.

Nevertheless some Amiga users needed to put some pirated copies of the book online.

The print material is ready and actually we wanted to give it to the printing press.

But since several weeks there is a torrent with a pirated copy of the English Amiga Guru Book online.

Due to the fact that some Amiga users don't show up any support towards those who keep their platform up and try to supply them with information this project is hereby discontinued.

That's why the Amiga Future project AGG which should be financed through the reprint has also been discontinued.

Original statement by Ralph Babel:

Unfortunately, the release of the 800-page extended edition of the Amiga Guru Book (covering OS 3.x and beyond) scheduled for April was preempted by some fool seeding a scan of the older version into one of those pirate-to-pirate networks, eliminating all hopes of me ever being able to recover the cost of a reprint, so the project had to be stopped immediately to avoid further loss of time and money. Thank you, Keith.

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Andreas Magerl
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Publisher for Amiga Software, Merchandising and many more.

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 02:41:30 AM »
Pirates suck.  :madashell:
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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 06:06:28 AM »
Anyway, I don't see the point in cancelling the release of this book.

I would be interested in purchase a copy. Even I would pre-pay for it. And I am not the only one.

That is why I encourage you to go ahead with the publication of the Guru Book.

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 07:13:15 AM »
I could, quite possibly, get my hands on the PDF but it's not what I want.
I want a book. I want to be able to sit on my couch and read it, without my laptop burning a hole in my pants.
I want the smell of paper, I want it bound, not some stupid ring-bound do-it-yourself printed PDF thing.

Please reconsider!
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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 08:02:00 AM »
The additions must have been extremely minor if an "older version" becoming available online makes the new version unprofitable.
 

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 12:45:34 PM »
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The additions must have been extremely minor if an "older version" becoming available online makes the new version unprofitable.


Only very little changes were made from Kickstart 2.x to 3.x...
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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 02:49:55 PM »
I absolutely agree with Tahoe. A book is a Book.
 

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 04:14:45 PM »
@All: if you are interested in getting a copy of the real book, "sign" the list we are making in this same forum...
As i write this, we are 24 people who are willing to buy the book, and only 1 day has passed since original statement...

C“mon guys, lets give our support to this!!
I also want a book!!! A real, with paper book!
Nothing beats a good book when i have to go to the WC!!!! (In which i read most of my Amiga stuff, since i love to spend 40 minutes or more there...

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 07:07:34 PM »
Why invest lots of money for a reprint when you can use a service like CafePress Self Publishing?  :-? There is a base price and you choose the retail price and earn the difference between the retail price and their base price :idea:
 

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 11:05:52 PM »
Or Lulu or.... There are plenty ways to make print on demand happen these days, but is it the real issue. If they wanted to release the book they definitely had found ways to do it.
 

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 11:45:39 PM »
Huh. So, this means now I'll have to search out the offending PDF because it'll be the only way to get my hands on the book?!?

I was looking forward to this.
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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2008, 02:10:25 AM »
Poster: itix  Posted: 2008/5/16 4:45:34

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    The additions must have been extremely minor if an "older version" becoming available online makes the new version unprofitable.



Only very little changes were made from Kickstart 2.x to 3.x...

Yeah, but it sure would be better if we could get the updated book with all the info instead of the older original version.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2008, 05:51:27 AM »
Original statement by Ralph Babel:

Unfortunately, the release of the 800-page extended edition of the Amiga Guru Book (covering OS 3.x and beyond) scheduled for April was preempted by some fool seeding a scan of the older version into one of those pirate-to-pirate networks, eliminating all hopes of me ever being able to recover the cost of a reprint, so the project had to be stopped immediately to avoid further loss of time and money.
Thank you, Keith.

[color=5555FF]After I posted elsewhere that I wanted to buy another edition of Ralphs EXCELLENT book (and also pay him extra money for a pw protected & searchable PDF)
 Some "Keith" email replied, but I cant imagine that this is a picture of the actual parasite: http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/moobs.jpg

 I hope you all will join me in sending money to Ralph for this MOST excellent Amiga book of books.
Jeri and I love this book very much and have learned very much from it over the years.

Joe Torre

P.S. Thanks to Alain Penders who first showed me his (english!) Amiga Guru book when I was traveling thru Belgium 1997 while working the planet for Amiga, Inc. @ Gateway)[/color]
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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2008, 11:35:56 AM »
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Why invest lots of money for a reprint when you can use a service like CafePress Self Publishing?  There is a base price and you choose the retail price and earn the difference between the retail price and their base price


I agree.

This is so obviously disingenuous.

Why can't people be honest and say 'I can't be arsed' or 'X pissed me off' or 'I hate the Amiga Community'.

Most people who wanted this book would pay a handsome margin on top of the CafePress price.

ACK used to do this kind of thing regularly - magic up a 'saviour' product for the community and then blame 'errant' members for the non appearance of that product.

For this, they should be sentenced to spend a night in a room listening and watching Doomy sing 'Only Amiga'.
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Re: APC&TCP: Project Guru Book Reprint Discontinued
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2008, 01:12:01 PM »
I created a proper online petition so that we can show Ralph how many people would still purchase the book, given a chance, and I am spreading the link around all the Amiga sites I'm a member of. Please sign the petition if you'd like to see the situation change.

Link is here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/4m1ga123/petition.html

Thank you.
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