Radeon drivers for Mediators

[Trev]

@Piru

They could be bootstrapping the BIOS with an emulator, similar to the way it's done in MILO on Alpha, U-Boot on the AmigaOne, and many other non-x86 platforms. If they *are* doing that, a generic VGA driver (or a VBE driver with emulation) is possible, too. It's something I started working on, but my PCI memory access emulation wasn't working properly. I haven't looked at the code in a couple years.

@amije

Elbox makes money by rebranding and upselling commodity hardware and the associated software. And sometimes, they just sell you the hardware without telling you that you can't actually use it in an Amiga.

EDIT:

It may be too little, too late. Radeon 9200 cards are already becoming scarce. What cards there are, however, are less than what Elbox charges. If the Elbox price included a bundled 3.3V riser and a modified back plate, then I'd consider the price competitive given what's available at this moment.

[kreciu]

I will disagree. Can you find me a Mediator for other "platforms" or FastAta, 4xEide or mouse interfaces and other smaller hardware.

When you will show this hardware (which suppose to be re branded?!?) for other computers I will agree, if not your opinions are worth nothing.

[redrumloa]

When you will show this hardware (which suppose to be re branded?!?) for other computers I will agree, if not your opinions are worth nothing.

Check a little hardware called Spider USB.

[Trev]

@kreciu

I don't know for certain, of course, but I doubt Elbox is making money on the Mediator. More likey, they take a slight loss (or break even) on the Mediator to attract sales of add-on cards. If you know something the rest of us don't, feel free to elaborate.

Regardless, my comment was half sarcasm. Elbox doesn't have the best reputation among hardware and software developers. Given Elbox's history, one has to ask whether their other products were developed in-house or by an outside source.

[kreciu]

Can you read in English PLEASE?

I asked about:

Mediator
FastATA
4xEIDE

All this hardware is still updated (software and hardware).

You could ask me if Radeon or Voodoo is a product of Elbox?

Elbox on their web site wrote that Spider IS WORKING on PC and MAC.

Please tell me HOW Spider, Voodoo, etc. would work WITHOUT Mediator? I'm really interested.

And I'm waiting for Mediator etc. which was developed for OTHER computers. Please.  :rtfm:

Ps. Where I can but NEW G-Rex, Prometheus?? Can I? Where was the last update for the drivers for anything? Maybe for Radeon 9200?

Ps. Please stop spiting into people faces.

[kreciu]

I know it's takes FOR EVER to release SOMETHING by Elbox... yeap I HATE that, especially showing in the shop something called SharhPPC for last X years... this drives me nuts ...

For sure they don't make money from Amiga. I think for them it's more hobby, since even when thay make something people COMPLAIN (without reason).

I like CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, this is NEEDED.

I really don't like telling that they have something, but we will "give" you (for $500) LATER.

 :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:

 :-D

EDIT:
How could I use today TV card (I'm going to buy soon), graphic card, LAN, Soundblaser, soon USB on PCI etc? Are you suggesting me to wait for graphic card for Amiga FOR EVER to buy on eBay?

EDIT2:

I've just received new updated drivers.

[Trev]

@kreciu

Easy, cowboy. English is obviously not your first language, and you've misunderstood the intent of my comments. Still, my own personal experiences with Elbox have not been good. Redrumloa's point regarding Spider is that it's a rebranded card modified to associate it with Elbox's software. There's plenty of documentation regarding that scandle. Google it.

I'd just like to see Elbox focus on more modern solutions. The Radeon 9200 has been discontinued by AMD/ATI, so the products in the pipeline today are all we'll ever see. What that means from a consumer standpoint is an inflated price for an obsolete product.

As a hobbyiest developer, I'd also like to see Elbox open up their documentation and do away with the non-disclosure agreement. I might have signed one, but Elbox didn't want to correspond with my attorney. (I'm sure they'll dispute that, but I have Malgorzata Binek's email saying as much.)

I don't think anyone ever expected the Shark to be released. Even if Elbox could somehow have sourced enough of the cards to meet demand at a reasonable price, I doubt Amiga, Inc. would have "authorized" its use. Now that OS4 for classics has been released sans Amiga, Inc, though, the ball is in Elbox's court. No one in the community is preventing them from following through on their promises.

Perhaps Elbox should work with Hyperion to produce a PS3 boot loader and PS3 device drivers for OS4. They could call it the "Multimedia CD PS3 Edition" and sell it to just about every Amiga fan boy out there. I'd even buy it. I don't know if Hyperion would go for that, but they don't seem to care too much about what Amiga, Inc. thinks these days.

EDIT:

I do own a Mediator Z-IV (and a Spider, which is completely useless in the Z-IV). If I can find a reasonably priced Radeon 9200 and make it compatible with my busboard, I'll give it a try.

[kreciu]

The comment was not for you (you didn't ask about Spider...). I don't like when people make NOT TRUE statements based on some small events (e.g. someone is not drinking at all, but when they find him drinking ONCE they make him alcoholic). I don't like  somethings about Elbox BUT...

   ;-)

I do expect Elbox to release SharkPPC  :-D . But not that I can't live without it, you know... and yes, we all look at Elbox now.

I don't need for my 040/33 Radeon 3850 . This I can use with my Core2Duo 2.66Ghz. Radeon 9200 is something "from today" comparing ANY other graphic card for Ami. I was looking for Voodoo 3 around 3 months and payed $30 for what?  

Ps. English is my third language

[Trev]

English is my first and only language, so you've got me there. ;-)

[amigagr]

at this point i have to say that Elbox email me the new cd update and i want to thanks them.

[Trev]

I received the system update but not the MM CD update.

[amigagr]

for me has happent the opposite :crazy:

[kreciu]

I got two files and my WB3.9 is running "on them". My friend got also 2 files/emails. You have really bad luck.

Ps. I can't see any difference in WB it's working fine 1440x900 on my Voodoo and 040/33.