Amiga Inc - An open letter to the Amiga community

[gregthecanuck]

Amiga Inc. Please do one thing right.

Either focus on delivering OS4.
OR focus on delivering "AA2".

You cannot do both. You do not have enough staff or experience to deliver two products.

Do one product. Do one "insanely great" product. Gain some credibility. Then move on. FOCUS. EXECUTE. DELIVER.

[Housey]

Poster: LoadWB  Posted: 2007/10/3 6:05:42

Is there any chance what so ever that the saber-rattling and finger-pointing can just plain stop?! WTF, people?

In this tangled mess that is Amiga, I apparently missed the whole KMOS thing. I thought this was the same Amiga, Inc. for which I renewed their expired domain in 2001.

How long has it been since the promise of OS4? How long have we been told "just a few more months"? How many times have we been told "there's hardware running a modern Amiga OS, I have it, and it's great, and you'll love it, too... as soon as we release it."

DAMMIT. Anymore, I don't give a rat's butt whisker who's at fault. Just stop playing with me. This is worse than a frigid prom date.

The secrets, the lies, the subterfuge, the half-truths and quarter-lies, SHOW US SOMETHING FOR $_DEITY's SAKE, something real. All of this is just words. Words we've heard before, words we'll hear again. How does a company stay running on words?

::shouts loud curse word and hits [Post Comment]::

Well said.  Couldn't agree more.

[Colin_Camper]

Boy!

The spirit of Jim Jones lives on....

Are you so deranged that you are asking us to believe that ACK will deliver?  :crazy:

[Zac67]

More words - no products.

It's been 15 years(!) since the community got fresh hardware. I don't think there are still "millions" out there, eagerly waiting for products they are being promised for a decade. And there's still more vapor in the pipeline.

[Error]

what i read above is actually confirming what i had thought of the majority of this community. Grumblers. it does not matter that people are doing their best to keep things up for those who actually **appreciate** that. i have a feeling that most of you grumblers think you would have done better.

so why the heck won't you prove that rather than sitting and criticizing others? or maybe you could rethink your complaints???

[hooligan]

Just printed the open letter onto toiletpaper. Be back in twenty.

[Chain]

McOdd, signed  8-)

[Oli_hd]

Bill, please shut up :-(
The new owners of Amiga came in wanting a OS for a mobile phone, they couldnt care less about the real Amiga, 68K or PPC. You have made no products and make stupid claims about Amiga OS5 and now AA2.

You employ three memebers of staff tops, you work out of a tiny office (See the Kent reporters writeup) and you try to rub the Amiga name into the ground by selling licences to unknown tiny companies.

Your website looks poor, not just for "the biggest software company" it looks worse than a local computer shops website.

What happened to the Amiga Kent offer? It came time for you to pay and you ran!
Why did you even sign up for that in the first place? You have no products, even if you had OS4 available at the time a one product company doesnt do that sort of thing, ever!

As for OS4, yeah I think its yours and tbh if Amiga lost control of its own OS then there is no chance of Amiga ever being put back together in any form.. that isnt to say you deserve it though, you couldnt give a feck about Amiga users and instead of offering millions you should have made some hardware, you! not ACK or anyone else.

Also what is up with buying an indian computer firm? for starters what products have they made since you bought them? second can we have some pictures of this company? how many does it employ? etc because I think you havent bought that company, I think its a PO box in a small indian office.

Also how about a real interview, lets get the Amiga round table to visit you/Amiga with a camcorder and lets see what Amiga is today!
Amiga is nothing!

You see frustration in the Amiga community because you have managed to destroy it, you have acted dishonestly and you dont care a bit about us. Thats why people want you to sell up and move on, if its just about a product name for your new mobile phone product please pick another name, the Amiga was and is so much more!

Oh and stop writing total BS: "Amiga is making great strides and technical progress on our products and services" << that is just a lie, you have done nothing.

Anyhow, this post is stepping over the line into attacks so I will stop but just to say it again, you have done nothing for this community but bring us pain, wether you ment to or not that is what you have done, and that is why you see the posts on sites dedicated to the REAL Amiga's, the 68K's and the Amiga One... if you want to push the Amiga DE why dont you go on to the Amiga DE/AA/AA2 forums? oh yeah its because no one likes the idea and as such there are no forums.. take a hint and help us or get out of the way!

[Jupp3]

And i thought OS 4.0 was completed. Is this the hardware getting delayed because OS 4 "isn`t available"? Please fill me in people..

I think the sentence should be "isn't available to Amiga inc." which should make it more clear (and that's the reason for the lawsuit aswell, I guess)

Sure, Ben Hermans signed a bad deal for Hyperion, but that's not a valid excuse to break it. Re-negotiating a better deal is how these kind of cases are normally handled.

Of course it might be that the various shell games played by Amiga inc. invalidated the contract, but that's just one of the things we should know after the court case is over.

[Donar]

My last point concerns a recent post about another company making offers for Amiga. This is categorically false. ... In the phone conversation that followed, we explained to the contact at the other company our current valuation based on the last round of funding we had completed, ... and we were told that there was no way they could even get close to those numbers.

Ok let's do the math (hopefully right...)
Prokom Software SA bought 800.000 "shares" (2,3%) of AMIGA Incorporated for a price of 2,5 US-Dollar each.

So whole AMIGA INC. should be up for sale for about: 86.966.521,74$ (US)  :crazy:

[Raffaele]

IMHO the entire letter it is worth only this passage:

The OS 4.0 situation could be resolved very quickly. We have tried. We were forced to take a legal course when the other side would not even mediate (which the contract calls for). This situation can still be resolved without the courts, but it cannot be a one sided solution.

It is a strong signal that Amiga Inc. wants an extra judiciary agreement with Hyperion.

Now if I was was in the shoes of Hyperion managers, I will open a roundtable in which to search for a deal.

IMHO Amiga inc. will be enough yelding and reasonable this time.

DON'T MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY.

Situation it is still ambiguous and the trial results are still uncertain.

If I were of Hyperion's, then I will start discussions of peace.

AT THIS MOMENT IT IS VITAL FOR AMIGA NOT TO MISS DECEMBER 2007 CHRISTMAS SALES.

If Amiga will be present for Christmas sales with SAM 440 EP and AMIGAOS, WITH A LICENCE FROM AMIGA INC., then Christmas sales will lead to free advertising from any online news-magazine which will title news that Amiga it is again on the market...  :-D

And more, the Christmas period it is the time of the year that people has enough money in the pocket to purchase an Amiga.

It is not important to win in court trial, just for the taste of having AmigaOS of your own.

It is not important to get your vendetta.

Profit, publicity and success for Amiga, and for your business are important!

And this all it is worth an agreement with Amiga Inc.

Don't miss this opportunity Hyperion.

Else Amiga will be taken as the new 2008 joke of the year...

And Amiga will be perceived as worst than Duke Nukem Forever joke...

Don't miss this opportunity Hyperion!

Amiga Inc. did their worst to let Amiga ship to ground in the sand...

Now, if you were so stupid to miss this last opportunity for an agreement, and you Hyperion let the Amiga ship to sunk...

...Then we the users will know how to do with you, and it will be of no importance that you developed AmigaOS 4.0...  :madashell:  :oops:  :roll:

[Elektro]

"Sure, Ben Hermans signed a bad deal for Hyperion,"

Only if they lose.

[Srbin]

Poster: hooligan  Posted: 2007/10/3 11:27:15

Just printed the open letter onto toiletpaper. Be back in twenty.

 :bow:

hahahaa... me too mate

This letter is crap! Bill is lying us for too many years and now you will believe him?!!? Did you forget promises?

About DiscreetFX! Bill said the oposite thing of what DFX said. But... big but:

DFX put a lot of money on bounties and still tries to keep amiga spirit alive.
Amiga is lying for 10 years.

And still... Bill tries to attack DFX. Just like he did with Genesi!!??

Is this guy normal? :crazy: I don't think so

[dammy]

what i read above is actually confirming what i had thought of the majority of this community. Grumblers. it does not matter that people are doing their best to keep things up for those who actually **appreciate** that. i have a feeling that most of you grumblers think you would have done better.

so why the heck won't you prove that rather than sitting and criticizing others? or maybe you could rethink your complaints???

Oh, but we are.

Dammy
No Schedule 'N' Rocking

[dammy]

Sure, Ben Hermans signed a bad deal for Hyperion, but that's not a valid excuse to break it. Re-negotiating a better deal is how these kind of cases are normally handled.

Didn't Ben write it?  I really dislike AI far more then I could ever certain owner(s) of Hyperion.  Be as that may; AI has legal grounds.  How solid you may ask?  We should know in six to twelve months. :horse:

Dammy

[BillE]

and not every partner we selected turned out to be the best or the most ethical

True, no one should have had anything to do with that buch that ran dodgy voucher schemes that were never redeeemed. A T shirt is not the same as a $50 redeemable voucher and in my country would have gone against all advertising standards.

Oh, I just realised that dodgy buch *was* run by yourself, Mr. McEwen. How on earth do you expect anyone to believe what you say by now ?


Bill Eaves


Developer of Digital Universe for Hyperion OS4.