New OS4 Community Portal

[AmiGR]

I've totally missed that part of the conversation. Where is that spelled out? If it's true, I definitly don't agree with their intentions.

Atheist's and TrollieWallie's posts on Moobunny are a good indication, they are both members. A few other people have been doing exactly the same on IRC.

I have to stress this: I have no problem with the existence of the site at all, if some people want OS4 only discussions, fair enough, it's fine. Saying that, I find no reason for them to support classics or emulation users at all, I don't think that anyone ever got flamed on AW or A.org when talking about classics, by any faction. It defeats the site's purpose, IMHO.

[hooligan]

>Nothing - except that it's exactly what AWN was supposed to be. Yes, AWN has changed and the zealots have left their positions of power but why is that?

Ok so there is no problem, right.


And all those who speak about splits.. in a sense its true. I can see it in my baheviour even.. if I post something about something in ann.lu, a.org, mos-news.de or mz.org, I am very unlikely to do a crosspost.

On the other hand, if the userbase is so small not to be able take this, does it even deserve to live? May be at that point its time to say game over and turn off the lights.

But it has not happened yet. I myself will not be participating or reading the new forum as it offers me zero, but I wish them good luck. Maybe they will take over a.org or aw.net at some point.

[neon32]

@AmiGR

I think your missing the point a bit there AmiGR. I think the point they're incorperating Workbench 3.0 etc is because it is the last official release before 4.0. No other reason. They'll then be able to help people migrate from 3.0 to 4.0 if people need help.

[AmiGR]

I think your missing the point a bit there AmiGR. I think the point they're incorperating Workbench 3.0 etc is because it is the last official release before 4.0. No other reason. They'll then be able to help people migrate from 3.0 to 4.0 if people need help

If they are helping people migrate to OS4, they are supporting OS4, not OS3.1 or the classics. This is understandable. But as I said, I do not see why they would need to support the classics just like that. There are quite a few sites for the classics and everything else, the only thing missing was an AmigaOS4 only website.

[Plaz]

Atheist's and TrollieWallie's posts on Moobunny

You always have to concider the source. I'm not aware they have an official capacity at amigans.net. To say the new site it "out to get some one or damages some thing" based on a few vocal members is a stretch. There's always a small vocal group who likes to stir things up no matter the community.

Time, actions and reputation of the site will tell in short time if it's a help or hinderance. I'll wait to see.

Plaz

[humppa]

I've totally missed that part of the conversation. Where is that spelled out? If it's true, I definitly don't agree with their intentions.

And not to forget, it even got spelled out by one of the "Amigan defenders" and co-founders of the website himself, Mikey_C. He slagged off other websites and even got moderated for that on Amigans (!). :lol:
Before, he did everything to badmouth AW.net, accusing their webmaster for being  bribed by bbrv and other hilarious stuff.

[Atheist]

Posted: 2006/12/5 14:27:27
AmiGR Wrote:

I have no problem with this site's existence but I have a huge problem with the fact that I and other moderators have been receiving torrents of abuse from certain members.

Hi AmiGR,

I suppose you mean me as being one of them. Well, we've often locked horns after and before you became a moderator. Abuse is BS because I was responding to abuse from you, in fact.

AmiGR Wrote:

Those members are very well known trolls that got the boot from AW.net for a very good reason that has nothing to do with being red, blue or pink with black spots for that matter, but it seems that that reason got lost in the sands of time...

Sorry, depends which side of the looking glass you're on on that one. Besides, analyzing the matter, you (w/c)ould see that _I am not a troll_. It's who starts the fracas that IS the troll.

I didn't get booted from AmigaWorld.Net because I got the hell out of there. If you want to tell the truth, explain why approx. 20 "Blue Troll Brigaders" are still there.

Oh and, how come Rogue's account has'nt been erased yet. He's requested that it is. Is it a hallucination of their's that his brother and he don't feel welcome there anymore? (Heck! Long ago, really.)

AmiGR Wrote:

and they got allowed into that website even if trolls aren't supposed to be welcome there.

Have'nt got a clue as to what you're talking about here. I think you're hallucinating now.

You know, they did give ironfist the iron boot. A troll was kept out.


The system works...

:-D

[humppa]

A troll was kept out. The system works...

Nope, it doesn't. The biggest troll known to mankind still has an account there: you    :lol:

[Atheist]

Posted: 2006/12/6 8:29:35
AmiGR wrote:

Atheist's and TrollieWallie's posts on Moobunny are a good indication, they are both members.

Hi AmiGR,

Oh my dear fellow; my "AmigaWorld.Net Is Dying!!!111!!1!!" thread on MooBunny is an observation, not an assault on AW.N.

AmiGR wrote:

I have to stress this: I have no problem with the existence of the site at all, if some people want OS4 only discussions, fair enough, it's fine.

Very pragmatic, fine.

[/quote]AmiGR wrote:

Saying that, I find no reason for them to support classics or emulation users at all, I don't think that anyone ever got flamed on AW or A.org when talking about classics, by any faction. It defeats the site's purpose, IMHO.[/quote]
It's true that no one attacks classic and emulator users, and it should be that way as almost ALL of us were that in the past.

No problem.

As to why it supports them? Well, AOS is AOS, all the way down to AOSx.xx > 0.

We support ALL AOS versions.

Why should anyone looking for AOS info need to go anywhere else?

[AmiGR]

I suppose you mean me as being one of them. Well, we've often locked horns after and before you became a moderator. Abuse is BS because I was responding to abuse from you, in fact.

You were? Could you please point to all of us that abuse, right here and right now? I mean, if I've posted so much abuse over the years while you have not, how come do I have a single abuse report on AW.net while you had {bleep}loads before you *got the boot*?

Sorry, depends which side of the looking glass you're on on that one. Besides, analyzing the matter, you (w/c)ould see that _I am not a troll_. It's who starts the fracas that IS the troll.

Oh poor you, you are no troll, that's why most major flamewars on AmigaWorld.net were started and sustained by you and this is also why AW.net has been so much more peaceful after you *got the boot*.

I didn't get booted from AmigaWorld.Net because I got the hell out of there. If you want to tell the truth, explain why approx. 20 "Blue Troll Brigaders" are still there.

Because unlike you, they do not attack other users. Some of them are annoying, indeed. Others are trolling and get moderated. All of them, unlike you, special boy, stick with the Terms and Conditions of AmigaWorld.net and since we are no dictators, we cannot go on and ban people unless if they infringe that. The ones that have *did* get banned.

You asked for your account to be deleted but since under the new TOS, bans are escalating and since you would never stop with that abuse, the next action would not had been a moderation, it would had been a permanent ban, so yes, you did essentially get the boot and just avoided getting it officially by asking for the deletion of your account.

I point everyone to this thread to see who is trolling and who is not.[/u]

Oh and, how come Rogue's account has'nt been erased yet. He's requested that it is. Is it a hallucination of their's that his brother and he don't feel welcome there anymore? (Heck! Long ago, really.)

Oh, you're following AW.net then, aren't you? Naughty naughty... Rogue will have to answer this question for you not me. He has posted *after* that request so I think that that gives you a hint.

Have'nt got a clue as to what you're talking about here. I think you're hallucinating now.You know, they did give ironfist the iron boot. A troll was kept out.
The system works...

Oh, I'm going to cherish the day you're gonna go to far and get banned from there as well... You are like a timebomb, you will troll at some point and that will get you kicked out.

As for the system, if the "system" means kicking out everyone you don't like, sure, it always worked. It doesn't mean that it's desirable in a civilised society. As much as I would love to give some people the iron boot myself, I'm no dictator and my personal opinion cannot be used against any person while in "the seat of power" (in quotes because it's more like the seat of our own torment).

[AmiGR]

Oh my dear fellow; my "AmigaWorld.Net Is Dying!!!111!!1!!" thread on MooBunny is an observation, not an assault on AW.N.

It is? Oh, I will let people who read that thread decide that. Your very first post was wrong, for example, the membership fell because we deleted accounts that have been inactive for QUITE a long time. Those accounts included mostly users with no or less than 10 posts. The rest of the thread is plain abuse.

As to why it supports them? Well, AOS is AOS, all the way down to AOSx.xx > 0.

Classic Amigas have Amiga.org and AmigaWorld.net.

Oh, while I'm at it, why not post this as well? This was the ultimate trolling thread from you, not the other one.

[tomazkid]

@Atheist

""A troll was kept out.

The system works...""


Well, at least 3 trolls got in, so I'm not convinced...

[System]

Let's put an end to this right now please.  I admit that my personal bias in the situation has played a hand in my lack of inspiration to motivate here.

I can only ask that you accept that considering  Mikey C intentionally orchestrated the last "exodus" against Amiga.org, thereby trying to divide the struggling community, he's earned a special place in my heart, right at the top mixed in with all the frothy bits (and the frost-bitten remains of KennyR).

I shouldn't have let this thread get so out of control though, and that affected you guys, and I'm sorry for my inattention.

If we can just cut the shyte and get back to ignoring Mikey C and his little imperialistic delusions, that would be great.

Wayne

[neon32]

No offence Wayne, but thats a bit of a petty response. Even if Mikey C has created his own exodus as you call it, it takes more than just Mikey for it to make any difference in the community, other people have to share his views too. He can't tell anyone what to do, and i'm certainly not a member there because i'm a follower of his or I worship him as people seem to think goes on around here. The sole reason i'm a member there is because I also thought that there is way too much bickering at places like Amigaworld, mainly created by a small number of people who, from my own observations, also seem to hang around a site called moobunny alot.

By saying what you just said, you are also insulting me for joining up with the new site, and i dont like that.

[jorkany]

tomazkid,

Well, at least 3 trolls got in, so I'm not convinced...

I thought I knew which three you were referring to until I realized you were probably including Atheist, in which case I'm probably thinking of an entirely different group of three people! So maybe at least six...

It's still a great site! :-)

[jorkany]

neon32,

Even if Mikey C has created his own exodus as you call it, it takes more than just Mikey for it to make any difference in the community, other people have to share his views too. He can't tell anyone what to do...

Ah, but he *CAN* tell people what to do now. You don't see the difference?