@IonDeluxe
Well seeing as I have been lumped in to a "fanatical cult of control freaks" and "fanatic" ...
You seem to want to lump yourself into that group. I was stating my opinion on that site, its raison d'être and its posted policies.
Call me part of a "circle-jerking cult with a phobia for reality and sane reasoning" if you will. The fact is you are transposing your personal dislike of Mickey_C and perhaps even of the "Amiga Inc. and/or partners" onto us.
Sure I am, but please don't confuse your use of "us" with "people who wish to discuss AmigaOS4 [or whatever]". That confusion is what the new site was created to perpetuate: "You're only a True Amigan if you think and say like THIS!" "If you think like THAT, then you're not promoting AmigaOS", et c.
That you have no intrest in this site is your affair, you are welcome not to like it, to disagree with the reasons behind it and so on.But, like I have been told many times before, if you dont like it, dont have any interest in it, you can simply ignore the post\news item. The same as we have been told many times before relating to other OS's and hardware.
I don't think anyone's asked you to not post your opinions on "other OS's and hardware" when they are on topic. Of course I'm as free to ignore news items as I am to comment on them. Just like anyone else. That is, unless the news item is posted on that new site; then you couldn't post your opinion unless it's compatible with what people like Mikey_C thinks constitutes "promoting and supporting" what's being, er, "discussed".
But do you? no. You come in and post a heap of insults and tell ME, one of the persons in that community, what my opinions reason and attitudes are, even when they are contradictory to what I have previously told you.
So you disagree. Doesn't it feel good to be able to do that?
Not only that, but you continue to throw insults, swear and deride me, my chosen community, my chosen solution\interest.
Bravo! Now can we drop the act?
I have sworn at and derided a mindset of intolerance and paranoia, as well as a new website solely dedicated to conserving and promoting that mindset. If you really wish to share that mindset just to be able to feel insulted, then that's really your problem, and it would be quite symptomatical for that mindset.
I assume your chosen solution/interest refers to AmigaOS4 and whatever hardware that might eventually get AInc's pointless blessing. Then I'm happy to inform you that I haven't commented on that, because 1. products have nothing to do with the topic and 2. I'd like to be able to buy AmigaOS4 myself some day. (I won't elaborate on the absurdity of suggesting that inanimate computer products could be "insulted", not to mention that you seem to think that one should not be allowed to "deride" them in case someone would want to do that.)
YOU and those like you, are the reason we want a place free of this kind of crap, becuase if we stay here our points of view are contantly treated with the same respect as we have been shown in this thread. No civility, no tolerance, plenty of insults and "persecution" and no moderators doing thier job and putting a stop to it.
It's possible you have been fooled by the new site's posted paranoid delusions about "not being able to discuss [product X]" or "[site N] is all about the horrible [product Y] these days". Let me reiterate: Those things are quite simply and perfectly demonstrably untrue. Mikey_C, for example, isn't so widely disliked because he likes AmigaOS4 or wishes to discuss it and related topics. He shares those feelings with a very large part of the Amiga community, including me for crying out loud!
Mikey_C, and the new asylum he built, are disliked because of (among many other things) their total intolerance of differing OPINIONS on e.g. those topics.
Do you wish to discuss AmigaOS4 et c specifically? Well, there are several sites and sub-fora for that already. Any other notion cannot be based on reality, it might be best explained by paranoia and the infamous Amiga Persecution Complex. Be prepared, however, for that not all people on a normal forum will share the same opinions!
Do you wish to be protected from seeing different opinions on topics concerning AOS4 et c? Do you wish to never be contradicted as long as you agree with Mikey_C? Well, in that case Mikey's asylum seems to be perfect, and then you would have my sympathies.
What exactly should moderators put a stop to here? Are you being prevented from discussing AmigaOS without the evil Blue Conspiracy butting in with their constant off-topic advertisements again? People who vehemently dislike the new site should be free to state this in a thread about the new site, IMO.
You and people like you make it intolerable to stay,
How so? Let's see, you welcome the new site because, you claim, that you're unable to discuss your favourite topics elsewhere. Yup, that seems to be your stated reason. Now, how do I or anybody else prevent you from doing this?
Don't you rather mean "people disagree with me and/or AInc and/or a somehow affiliated commercial entity, and I can't accept that"?
Oh yeah, I don't really care if I insult the intolerant, the blind cheerleaders, the shills, the pied pipers, the blind fanatics or a company when I write what I think of them and their games. Now, why would YOU wish to include YOURSELF in any of those groups? Again, please remember this important distinction: Merely preferring and wishing to discuss AmigaOS is NOT the determinant for being part of any of those groups!
Quite frankly if this turns out to be the case, then the site will not likely survive.
Of course it won't, not in its current incarnation anyway. Look at AW.net, it eventually had to adapt to reality, maybe AInc pissed off enough members of staff one time too many so that the site finally got its priorities right (a "community portal" should let the interest of the users should go before arbitrarily chosen companies, not vice versa).
And then AW.net's Exodus I got many more followers than Mikey's Exodus II, and there was actually more AOS4-related news to discuss back then. When Exodus III happens (in a year?), the number of self-proclaimed "True Amigans"(TM) who will move to the next Petri dish to form a new vile bacterial colony will be even more pitiful (however more resistant to the "antibiotics" of the real world).
You are of course entitled to your opinion, but I have not seen evidence that this is true as yet.
You mean evidence of the site's real purpose and nature? Don't you know what the people who started the site are like, and how they have motivated this latest Exodus? Have you not read their hilarious terms of service, or Mikey's embarrassing "notice to new members"?
I'll give them credit for being at least somewhat more honest about their intentions with the site than AW.net was during Exodus I. They make it rather clear that they cannot be taken seriously; that only likeminded are welcome, that the site's purpose is circle-jerking and to provide advertising for dubious companies, and that Known Untermenschen and dissidents won't even be allowed to register. The site's name is as misleading as AmigaWorld.net used to be, though.
Anyway, just look at our two postings, which of us is the most intolerant, close minded, insulting and like to cause trouble?
That's right, I have no tolerance for their chosen and deliberate intolerance and close-mindedness and I won't feign any.
Trouble? People disagreeing and saying so is not trouble. Site managers calling disagreement and debate "trolling" is trouble.
I guess some people might feel that their intelligence is insulted by the thin and torn veil of innocence which you seem to be trying to place on the leproid face of that site. "All we want is a place to discuss AOS4 - come and join us", my a$$.
