New OS4 Community Portal

[Varthall]

@Matt_H

Well said.

Varthall

[chris]

It's the OS4 answer to MorphZone... or is there something wrong with that as well?

AmigaWorld has been lately filled up with pointless flamewars about different OS and CPU varietes - it's kind of like a war-zone version of amiga.org now.

amigans.net is intended to be a peaceful place to largely serve the OS4 community (there aren't many of us yet, but that will change), without the pointless bickering.

amiga.org is generally friendly, but you still get the bickering occasionally, as can be seen in these comments.  It is certainly the best place for AmigaOS and derivative discussion though, as discussions tend to be constructive rather than flamefests.  But, it isn't really the right place for OS4 support as you do get the odd OS4-hater cutting in.

I think there is a place for amigans.net, it just takes over from what aw.net used to be and no longer is.  Note that I posted this article there as well but it didn't get approved - go figure.

Chris
PS it's not that we don't like MorphOS, it's just it's better to not have it shoved in your face when trying to discuss OS4.  I wouldn't go onto lambworld.net and talk about chicken.

[jj]

I dont know I might......but there again I have a sense of humour.  I learnt a very long time ago, that the world is full of pain and sufferingm, and at the end of the day should we all get so worked up about such pointless things, in the scheme of things.

Learn to laugh people.....

I own catfish and my better half regularly visits a site with information on looking after them.

There is some guy who keeps joining the site in difference guises. He keeps getting banned for posting articles about how nice catfish are to eat, and recipies etc.....you should see how mad people go, it cracks up :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[HopperJF]

Fantastic news!!! I have been waiting for this site to come to fruition. Thank you !!!

Morphzone for MorphOS, Amigans.net for OS4/Amigans. AO and AW for a mixture. It is all fine to me, I think there is a place for a OS4 only site. It is only fair if the MorphOS users get their own site.

[redrumloa]

Morphzone for MorphOS, Amigans.net for OS4/Amigans. AO and AW for a mixture. It is all fine to me, I think there is a place for a OS4 only site. It is only fair if the MorphOS users get their own site.

Just for the record, discussion of other platforms and Ami* like solutions besides MorphOS is allowed on MorphZone.

[bhoggett]

In other words, it's formed on exactly the same elitist, isolationist principles that AmigaWorld.net was formed on in the first place. A place for all the red-faction hate-mongers and superiority complexes can post whatever they like without the risk of being challenged or having to explain themselves.

Quite simply, it's the living proof of what has f***ed up the Amiga scene for years now: the community. It's not Amiga Inc, Hyperion, H&P, Eyetech or Genesi who are responsible for the rotten core of the Amiga scene - it's the users who have allowed the scammers and con-artists to sell them unachievable pipe-dreams because it's exactly what they wanted to hear. It looks like the new forum is there for people who don't want to be interrupted in their fawning obeisance to "the official solution".

It's only when users decide enough is enough and are truly prepared to make sacrifices and compromises to their ideals that anything will ever move forward. So far this hasn't happened.

[humppa]

It's the OS4 answer to MorphZone...

Answer? As if it's purpose is some kind of counter-balance to MZ? Get over that blue vs. red thing already! It serves no purpose, just further dimishes our already tiny small community. What we need is to _at least try_ to join efforts rather than split up and move into different directions. A common portal is one thing. Common developer projects another. And if this portal is an answer to MZ, then it is a laughable effort in a situation with no final OS, no hardware, no licenses and whatnot.

AmigaWorld has been lately filled up with pointless flamewars about different OS and CPU varietes - it's kind of like a war-zone version of amiga.org now.

The site has been rather calm for some time, moderation was efficient and balanced (after Mikey_C left). Then all of sudden hell broke loose when the Morphos on Efika news was announced.
Some OS4-trolls screamed that there was too much promotion for Genesi-products although the proportion of MOS-related news and threads was tiny. Talking about tolerance. You go figure. :roll:

amigans.net is intended to be a peaceful place to largely serve the OS4 community (there aren't many of us yet, but that will change), without the pointless bickering.

So you are just repeating what AW.net did back the day when moderation tolerated only certain company-endorsed opinions? Why would that work out today in a situation that looks even more dim for OS4? Pure idiocy of repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Good luck at that.

But, it isn't really the right place for OS4 support as you do get the odd OS4-hater cutting in.

The main problem that you guys have is paranoia. You even see people whining about OS4-release and people hypothetically discussing things like OS4 on x86 as "OS4 haters".

You make it appear as if there was never any moderation at Amigaworld. There was moderation and it was pretty good during the last months. The problem you guys have is zero tolerance for other opinions. Rather boring if you ask me.
Wasn't it called a discussion forum originally?

Note that I posted this article there as well but it didn't get approved - go figure.

Doesn't surprise me at all after all the badmouthing certain people from "teh true Amigans" have done at Amigaworld before they left (and are still doing!). You guys never learn. Just fanning the flames, separating, instead of finding compromises and looking at things all have in common.

While I am open two both MOS and OS4, the recent events have made the "official" solution and its further split up community (what is left from it) much more unappealing to me. So Un-Amigan.

[Matt_H]

@ Varthall

Thanks. :-)

@ thread

This old thing seems to again be becoming more and more appropriate for the community these days. :-(

[TheMagicM]

Matt_H:
Good reply.  I also think AO is a 'melting pot' for all users.

bhogett:
I totally agree.  I had to read it again because I thought it was a rare thing for someone other then myself to think that.

As for AW, I've started to read there a little more then usual to see whats going on.  I think their moderators have it rough to be honest.  I think it gets kinda rough over there and they just try to do the best they can with moderating.  Its one of those 'damned if you do, damned if you dont' things.

But to the ones who posted in this thread, they are great replies..glad you're on this site also.

-Alex

[Tomas]

Has AWN become too liberal then, to require yet another split by those who are obsessed by the purity of the "true way"?

Amigaworld is actually more blue than amiga.org these days.
There is alot of genesi news posted on the frontpage there these days.

[ne_one]

@Tomas

With virtually nothing of merit happening, after a while any colour sounds interesting. :crazy:

Isn't it time for 21 Questions Part II: the update?

[humppa]

@Tomas

Amigaworld is actually more blue than amiga.org these days.
There is alot of genesi news posted on the frontpage there these days.

Check the facts instead of making up things.

TMHG wrote:
*None* of these areas reached above *one single percent* of the total amount of news headlines!

Talking about tolerance...why can't some guys ignore the 1-2% of Genesi news? Does anybody force them to read them?

[Kees]

/me shrugs

History repeating itself once again indeed.

[AmigaPapst]

Very nice news! I like the new portal. :-)

[benJamin]

I'm gonna go start my own UAE-only portal...

...with blackjack, and hookers...

...in fact, forget the blackjack!


Ah, screw the whole thing!


benJamin
"He's a complete and total dork!" - Kryten

[Agafaster]

and the cycle continues...
...I left AO about 3 years ago for that very reason, and came back (to discover sanity restored, happily!) when work prevented me from logging in to AW. I dont often get back there apart from brief dialups but OS/CPU flames does seem to be the main order of business when not discussing problems.
meh, I'll give amigans.net a go, see how it is - everyone deserves a look afterall!
-edit-
doh! it'll have to wait till tonight! I gave my home email, and work wont let me connect to that either!