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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #134 from previous page: September 14, 2006, 09:59:27 PM »
I think the best interests of the community would be served by a slanging match between the two combatants (i.e. Amiga Inc and Hyperion).  In the old days we'd have "Fleecy" and Ralph Schmidt going at it on ANN, and later Ben Hermans and Ralph, and later, Bill Buck and Hermans, etc, etc...

It was great, everything was out in the open, everyone had enough information to take sides and everyone watched on with fascination.

20 questions with Ben Hermans might be a good start?
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #135 on: September 14, 2006, 10:07:42 PM »
Seriously though, I think more information about what's really going on would benefit us all.  I have a feeling that this is the first step in a propaganda war between both sides, and the select few "friendly fans" of both sides who really know what's going on continue stoking the flames...

It looks grim for OS4, which is a tragedy given how much work has been put in by everyone.  Yet more bad times ahead I fear  :-(
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #136 on: September 14, 2006, 11:37:04 PM »
WTF is this? A low flying time warp? OS5 on schedule and rockin'? Welcome to 4 years ago.....?

Seriously now....anyone buy any of this crap (apart from the Hyperion/AI OS4 dispute...which seems plausible)

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #137 on: September 15, 2006, 12:10:08 AM »
The following is of course,my opnion but ought to be obvious:

The  ridiculous extensions and other greed enacted by the U.S. Congress on behalf of some big entertainment corporations such as Disney  have stifled innovation for the average citizen.

 At a time when software,best selling books, and movies' life cyles was measured in less than a decade Congress extended copyrights nearly a century,allowed going back and  copyrighting works that had fallen into the public domain under the laws then extant. If that wasan't ex post facto, what is?

 But under current American law if I owned Amiga OS rights ,I could insist that no one be allowed to use any of it without meeting my conditions,no matter how greedy or  even ridiculous. I could evn decide that I will not permit the ungrateful public to use it at all.And sue anyone who tried to do so.

  And American law is particularly odious if it prohibits the user from making adjustments to a product so it will better meet his needs. Yet American laws in the form of the one-sided EULA software license does just that,and if every law were fully enforced the whole nation  would be in jail.

 Just too many lawyers.....

 IF  the very near future sees the release of Amiga OS on a game console /set=top box by a large manufacturer at a reasonable price THEN I will quietly celebrate.

 Bill sell a few tens million installs of Amiga OS for Wii or PS3 or similar at $5? a unit and GET IT OUT THERE!
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #138 on: September 15, 2006, 12:20:54 AM »
"IF the very near future sees the release of Amiga OS on a game console /set=top box by a large manufacturer at a reasonable price THEN I will quietly celebrate."

I actualy work for one of the big 3 in the console market (I work on the entertainment side), the idea of making a deal with a.inc is laughable.
Just look at the track record (or lack there of)

The sad thing as is used to be a cool OS and given some real leadership could have gone somewhere.   But it too late there are many other options and the idea of doing business with Mr McEwen is a bad one.  If the thing went open source we would ifcource consider it, until then linux it is.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #139 on: September 15, 2006, 12:54:37 AM »
@pierre

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I think amigaworld is very os4 centric, so they would eaten him alive, I think.


 :pancake:  Bill McEwen for dinner   :lol: :-P
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #140 on: September 15, 2006, 01:07:53 AM »
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(Legerdemain): I have come to just look upon the Amiga as a fun hobby ...(snip)... I'm pretty satisfied with things as they are now. I do have my old Amigas to play around with... and what the future brings doesn't matter to me, today, really

Couldn't have put it better myself... I also enjoy messing around with the old hardware and stuff, but could never justify an AmigaOne even when they were briefly available - due to the huge cost involved in buying one. Plus there's the issue of what it would be used for, above and beyond the "tinkering" I do with the classic stuff...

I wish A.Inc well, and hope something comes of the whole OS4 episode... But I feel the days of expensive proprietary hardware are long gone...

Even if OS4 is ported to inexpensive x86 hardware, it'd have to be sensibly priced (e.g. cheap!) for it to sell in any numbers, especially seeing as there are plenty of zero cost OSs to choose from...

Personally, I'm looking forward to see the direction the MiniMig will take... I hope that comes to market in one form or another...

And I'm also keeping an eye on AROS as that's improving all the time...

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #141 on: September 15, 2006, 02:20:25 AM »
Thanks Wayne and Bill.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)
« Reply #142 on: September 15, 2006, 03:26:12 AM »
yeah I agree also.  but
@InTheSand
how do you expect eh minimig thing to make it to production when bill stated that deceded on someting else...(going a differt direction) how can He get a license to build it?  We simply have to wait for a.inc to fold to do anything interesting.
I still want to know what how OS5 could be bettern that linux at this point?  Why bother....
 

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« Reply #143 on: September 15, 2006, 03:26:12 AM »
Very interesting.... Not very reassuring, but interesting.
Great job Wayne.
This sure seems to have brought everyone out to comment.
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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions
« Reply #144 on: September 15, 2006, 06:16:33 AM »
:roflmao:  IN FOR THE DRAMA!!! :roflmao:

This is just a big soap opera and I love reading Bill M's responses and then people dissecting it.  Oh boy I cant wait till the IRC BB4 chat.  :lol:
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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions
« Reply #145 on: September 15, 2006, 06:21:45 AM »
Discover the McEwen Code
A best seller soon to be a major motion picture...

Really, people.
Just read the questions and then the answers. It's just that simple.
 

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« Reply #146 on: September 15, 2006, 07:06:55 AM »
Seen "Thank You For Smoking"?

Another chapter for the history book, another interview that will be quoted in a few years for the joke effect.

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« Reply #147 on: September 15, 2006, 07:14:12 AM »
Amiga Inc probably has the ownership of OS4 source code, so OS5 could be a multiplatform OS4.
I think that's good news.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions
« Reply #148 on: September 15, 2006, 07:23:47 AM »
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Discover the McEwen Code
A best seller soon to be a major motion picture...

Really, people.
Just read the questions and then the answers. It's just that simple.


haha :-D

great comment and so true.

Mr McEven, my condolences for the loss of a family member. Also, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions and "baring your throat for the rabid volves"
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Re: Amiga Inc answers your questions
« Reply #149 on: September 15, 2006, 07:35:48 AM »
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Just read the questions and then the answers. It's just that simple.

It'd be simple if a) you knew everything Bill McEwen said was technically sound and he was incapable of saying anything but the truth, and b) the implications of what he said and didn't say were easy to know. But things being what they are, IMO there's plenty to speculate about if a person wants to spend the time. ;-)

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