Amiga Inc answers your questions (updated)

[pierre]

@wayne
I never called you a stuped sucker!  
Just becasue I have MY OWN OPINION and am not afraid  to post it does not mean you should riducule me!
BTW way wayne I mean why waist more time with Amiga Inc. Given the legal situation the evolution of hardware and software I dont think we realy need them any more...

I have moved on years ago, anything new AMIGA will just be a bonus, I just dont feel like sucking up to some CEO after he made a bunch of bad and IMO foolish decisions, why should I?


I will consider moving on, but most likely will hang around and share my view,  Like I said if he comes trough, I will make a public post stating that I was worng!  Tehn you guys can all shame me and I will take it.  Will you do the same if this does not happen?

[pierre]

@Legerdemain
what are you talking about?
I got the impression that you thought that there was a chance this was maybe going to happen...
If you dont belive that they have a chance to get this done, fine I misunderstood you, sorry.
Will you accept this statment as an appology, I have like ZERO beef with you.

[CLS2086]

Be patient and do like me :
Upgrade your classic and buy a Pegasos, you won't waist your time and your money...
Earn your money and if a day something new labelled "AMIGA" is out, you'll be able to buy it  :-)

[techie]

I just want to say thank you to Wayne for putting together this Q&A section and to Mr.McEwen for responding to these questions in such a timely fashion.

While the answers presented here have not quelled my fears about the future of Amiga OS, or Amiga Inc in general, they have at least provided some insight into the current situation.

Regards,
Techie

[pierre]

"If you can prove that Bill McEven have demolished the Amiga community, well, then, just go ahead and prove it. Thing is, since I have no grip of exactly what have been going on the last 7 years behind closed doors, I can't blame Bill for having demolished everything, if anything at all. It could just as well be due to bad circumnstances that things have turned out the way they have."

O.k.  amiga inc was the only co. that had the right to produce a new amiga, they had 7 years to do so, they did not manage to bring a new machine to the market.  They did someting with cell phones. Had there been a product the community would have actualy EVOLVED!  While they failed to produce this machine, others like genisi pulled it off, instead of helping them they stated a war with them divided the remaining community, which is distructive. Now after intese silence they show up gain with a bunch of promises and a wired sale and tranfer to a new Co.  Fish if you ask me.  Its gonna take MORE that a few words from Bill to make my buy into this...AGAIN.
this is my option, you can agree disagree and anthing else.

[ssolie]

I see my question was selected and answered (3) but it seems the usual answer for anything related to Amiga was given:

Unfortunately, this is now in the hands of attorneys as we get everything worked out so that everyone, including the community, can enjoy this next step forward.

One does have to wonder why lawyers are always involved in anything related to Amiga. Sigh.

[chris]

Thanks Bill & Wayne.

[Legerdemain]

I got the impression that you thought that there was a chance this was maybe going to happen...

Well, that is from where the entire issue arised. I have never said that I have faith in Amiga Inc., just that I don't see how I can accuse them for things I don't know much about, and that I find the answers Bill McEven have given 'us' rather straightforward and logical. So, yes, you did misunderstand me.

If you are to disagree with my opinons, well, fine, you are entitled to have your own opinons. I just don't see the logic behind them, at all times.

But I think there is enough said on this matter. Let's move on, shall we?

[jorkany]

@Atheist,

Maybe, they're (Troika) looking to pressure from us, to come to bear on Amiga Inc. to be given that license, after "the cat's out of the bag", so to speak??

Face it, Troika was an incompetent enterprise at best, and a hoax at worst.

You've got OS4, you've got your A1, be happy with that because that's all there's ever going to be. Overall you would have been better off just sticking with your Classic Amiga.

[jorkany]

What serious company in their right mind would want to do business with companies like these?

What CUSTOMER in their right mmind would want to do business with companies like these? Yet some people did buy AmigaOnes. Go figure!

[darksun9210]

thanks to Wayne for puttingthis together,

thanks to Bill for being kind enough to respond to our questions...

I don't see it as a good use of time to formulate an indepth analasys of the whole situation as i am just not priviy to all the facts. However, i am happy that there was at least an answer from the darkness....

 :-)

[itix]

I don't rejoice in the death of OS4, which is what this seems to imply.

I didnt mean to imply it. However, what kind of benefit OS4 brings to Amiga Inc? Requesting money for hardware (even with insane requirements) is certain way to find new revenues. Giving hardware license for free is not good business from Amiga Inc point of view.

There is no market. A new market would have to be created.

Everything has its end. Finally.

[uncleted]

The questions and answers are interesting, but in the whole scheme of things are totally meaningless.

There needs to be a new OS out there, there needs to be a new source of hardware, etc.  That's it.

Nothing that Bill has said defines anything concrete.

The whole $500,000 issue seems stupid to me.  If you can licence the hardware and software out, I say go ahead and licence it to whoever wants it.

If the company only manages to produce 100 boards before busting, at least that's 100 more boards than we had before.

I would suggest they should be more interested in quality and ability to follow standards than bank balance.  It's not like Amiga is Apple or Dell and can go around making demands of manufacturers.  

Realistically the hardware is worthless now anyway.  Classic stuff is too outdated to be useful.  Even the PPC boards are old tech.  The OS is the only thing that has any value, and there's no decent reason that can't run on any hardware, except for some reason Amiga Inc. insists it must run on their licenced platform.

If anything, all he's said basically confirms that Amiga right now only exists to make lawyers richer, and the only realistic option for anything new tangibly Amiga related is AROS.

[Colin_Camper]

Thanks Wayne and Bill -

This is amazing stuff.

This really needs re-reading a few times.

Bill's considered replies really show that he has been on a huge journey since the Gateway days. His surprise at the leaked contract really showed that they completely took themselves out of the community these last few years. The new/old product fiasco is evidence of yet another shafting (I already knew about Merlancia etc) - but there are too many revelations to mention.

Let's hope this whole episode is a turning point in, not just luck but also, attitudes to one another in the community.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.   :-)

Bty - I am also amazed by the minimig revelation.  :-o

[Troika]

@jorkany

>>>Face it, Troika was an incompetent enterprise at best, and a hoax at worst.<<

If you have anything good to say fine. If not shut it! :madashell:

[Colin_Camper]

On a lighter note;

Isn't the rebirth of Bill McEwen and his first visit here (and not Amigaworld.net) a bit like Ron L. Hubbard walking past the scientology convention and addressing a Hari Krishna group instead?  :lol: