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IDE Trade-Up Program
« on: February 11, 2006, 03:39:51 AM »
Elbox Computer is pleased to announce the IDE Trade-Up Program, in which you can upgrade your existing 4-way IDE interface or Zorro II IDE adapter, irrespective of its producer, to the Elbox FastATA controller.

The Trade-In, Trade-Up Program offers customers who order the FastATA controller in this Trade-Up Program a 30 EUR mail-in rebate when their old IDE adapter is received by Elbox Computer.

Elbox's FastATA controllers -- unlike 4-way IDE interfaces and Zorro II IDE adapters -- supports PIO-3, PIO-4 and PIO-5 modes. With the FastATA controller your hard drives and ATAPI devices will work up to 500% faster than with any 4-way IDE interface or any Zorro II IDE adapter.

For details, visit IDE Trade-Up Program page.
 

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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2006, 04:15:01 AM »
"The IDE Trade-Up Program is available only for residents of the European Union"

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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2006, 04:20:47 AM »
That's discriminating.  Wasn't most of the good parts of the Amiga born in the USA? Don't they care about us.
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2006, 05:56:20 PM »
But it does also say "If you are interested in this upgrade but you live outside the European Union contact Elbox Sales Dept. at sales@elbox.com for an offer for you."
Must be worth a check ?  Good luck :-)
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2006, 05:58:47 PM »
The Amiga was never as big in USA as in Europe.
Atari dominated USA. The biggest markets were
always Germany and UK.

It's a financial decision for Elbox. By keeping
it within EU they don't have to worry about any
custom fees and VAT for every interface they
recieve. If they accept "outsiders" they may
end up losing big money on those fees..

It's just as discriminating as all US eBay
sellers and companies who can't ship outside
their continent. It's the same.
 

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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2006, 06:12:30 PM »
Most of them don't ship because they are either lazy or don't want to hassle with the post office trying to get things out of the country. I swear the post office sees a package going out of the country, they decide to try to x-ray it, dissect it, and look for WMD's or something.

Most respectable companies ship overseas
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2006, 06:16:23 PM »
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That's discriminating. Wasn't most of the good parts of the Amiga born in the USA? Don't they care about us.

But the amiga was still a big failure in USA while it was a huge success in Europe.

The reason for this offer not including usa, is probably because the company is located in Europe and the fact that it would be more expensive and troublesome to ship to USA. Is funny you people complain, as it seems like 99% of US based companies does the same.. "This offer is only avaliable to US citizen" and i even get ads of their offer in my damn mailbox.
 

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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2006, 06:18:09 PM »
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Most respectable companies ship overseas

And they do ship oversea afaik, but this just does not include this offer..
 

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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2006, 06:58:14 PM »
one of the biggest sucesses of the amiga -the toaster was in the us, and several amiga models and accelerators etc. were designed and built in weschester pa, i think it is atari was more popular in europe as a whole and amiga was more popular in the us, gb and germany

elbox is not in the us so it isnt just the shipping, customs,etc that is the problem, the product may not be certified for use in the states yet. the us is very strict about rf radiation and stuff like that. europe is much more leniant, except for gb from what i hear.
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2006, 08:24:20 PM »
Atari only successful for the 2600 and very few of the 8 bits.  More people then anything had Apple II's and C='s.  A lot more people had Apple's and C='s.  When you get to the Atari ST's that got even more skewerd as Atari was probably more popular in Europe. I think I never really seen a ST in real life, but I saw a Amiga 500 at an Air Force base exchange. Next day it was gone.

I guess at that time people were quite content on slapping their 286's and other things to play with the ST's.  Newtek wouldn't have really played with the idea of such and expensive toy if there wasn't much use for them.

Okay I think this is getting personal. I'm just going to back away before I get the Amiga virus.
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2006, 10:37:23 PM »
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But it does also say "If you are interested in this upgrade but you live outside the European Union contact Elbox Sales Dept. at sales@elbox.com for an offer for you."
Must be worth a check ? Good luck


Oops, I guess I should have kept reading. Thanks.:oops:
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2006, 12:11:05 AM »
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i think it is atari was more popular in europe as a whole and amiga was more popular in the us

The opposite is more true... The Amiga was a failure in US when it came to home market, but it did take of later in the video production/tv station scene in the US. The amiga was the biggest success in Europe and here in Norway i never saw a atari being sold in stores, but the amiga500 was sold everywhere and most people i knew had one themself.

Most americans i have talked to seem to know the Atari better than the Amiga, while the exact opposite is true here.
 

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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2006, 09:42:25 AM »
They can't have a program like this for non-EU residents. They would have to pay import tolls for every card imported. :-(
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2006, 09:18:45 AM »
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Most respectable companies ship overseas


Heh, say that to Amazon and the like. You obviously never tried to buy US video games from outside the States ;)
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Re: IDE Trade-Up Program
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2006, 04:51:44 PM »
Hmmm, think I might go for this since I've had nothing but problems with my Elbox 4 way IDE splitter. I'll still end up losing money :-x But at least it will work.

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