Markus_Bieler: I can't understand the logic behind this [not releasing for classic hardware].
The age of the classic hardware is over.
The Editor: A mighty Fanfare needs to sound ... Something that will get noticed in the big PC mags.
THAT ... MIGHT attract enough NEW users to the fold to pay for all the devs
And the hardware. Hyperion's work is appreciated, but really, $800 motherboards aren't going to much much attention from PC mags.
I can only imaging what Maximum PC would say about AmigaOne -- if they actually cared. :-)
JoannaK: Seer: The basic problem is .. that At the Beginning.. Hyperion publicly (and privately) announced that OS4 Would be final in THREE MONTHS (target was march 2002).
I won't bother confirming that date, but I agree that OS4 is way overdue when there could have been OS4 a year ago and OS 4.1 today.
Make sure the person to deliver the fanfare isn't out of breath by the time things need to get rolling.
Lando: On the one hand they complain about the lack of hardware - and I still don't see where any new hardware is going to come from - a few amateurs working in their bedrooms or Eyetech who have already lost money on the A1 and have been silent for months, along with Mai whose website hasn't been updated for 18 months and is full of missing images and dead links, and haven't shown any signs of life whatsoever for almost as long? Hardly seems like a mass-market proposition.
Well, Hyperion did say PPC has a bright future, right? I'm sure something will come along 5 years from now.
Mai was a big mistake. Whoever made that decision really didn't do any homework. Lets hope that doesn't happen again. *cough*
Hattig: That must mean that OS4 is also compiling for ARM based architectures, unless someone has made a PowerPC based PDA. It might not be optimised that much ... the only thing it would need is software. Bum.
Anyway, that bodes well for porting to other architectures in the future.
I doubt OS4 has proper support for ARM. I'm concerned that OS4 is just a bit too friendly towards PPC, which isn't a good thing for an OS.
Invisix: Work out a contract or something!
Given the profits we're talking about here, wouldn't an IOU be more appropriate?
Every company involved in the so-called future Amiga for years has been "TOTALLY USELESS".
As a Perl/PHP/Java programmer, it's all too clear to me that both the old and "new" Amigas aren't going to be accepted very well in the new PC market.
I'm really disappointed that a new virtual machine language isn't being planned. Tools are what make or break an OS, especially if the hardware isn't competitive, and thus, raw performace is irrelevant.
People surrounding themselves with classic Amigas are really missing out on a lot of cool stuff. I never thought I'd like UNIX until I tried it, and now all I can think about is how much better Amiga could be if it was just a new desktop running on a proven OS. There are
plenty of OSes out there that don't hog 512MB of memory, like Windows does.
Plaz: Yes, AmigaOS for PDA. My Ipaq is ready! And there are already 10's of thousands of
those little hardware platforms ready built
and waiting to go.
First, I don't think PDAs have anything in common with the original Amigas. Similarities are in hardware requirements only, not function.
Second, each PDA requires its own set of special drivers, as Hyperion pointed out. They could only support a very small number of devices. Given how many PDAs there are out there (compared to PC chipsets), I can only imagine how difficult it would be to support any quanity of devices. PCs conform to design standards for a reason. These rules often do not govern PDAs and other embedded devices.
Dr_Righteous: So relax and enjoy. The moment we've all been waiting FOREVER for is nearly upon us.
Well, so long as you have the hardware for it. I'd be willing to buy a special motherboard and CPU for $400, but I'm not going to put up with things like registered RAM. Even most servers don't need that stuff these days.
trgse: there is nothing (I repeat) NOTHING (short of Hyperion bying Microsoft) that will ever be mentioned in the big PC mags (except as a funeral notice... 'the final death of the amiga' etc.).
I agree. AmigaOS needs special functionality to be recognized, like a cool programming language or bundled apps. As an OS that sips system resources, it's not going anywhere. Today's supercomputer is tomorrow's budget hardware.
The A1000 was about functionality that the competition didn't offer. Meanwhile, we're debating what tools will be used to shut down rogue processes and what the system updater will look like. Wow.
AmigaDE actually looked interesting. OS4, while a nice piece of work, just doesn't seem to have much purpose.
seer: I don't hear the programmers complaining ?
Some people don't, if they don't really expect payment in the first place. Now, the people Amiga Inc. screwed over are in a different boat.
