MP3 on Amiga?

[Varthall]

DoomMaster wrote:
MP3s are best played on PCs and home DVD players and on MP3 players.  The Amiga has its own forms of music that works really well.  Mod and smus are examples of Amiga music formats.  Do PC stuff on a PC.  Do Amiga stuff on an Amiga.  Do not try to mix the two.  Remember, the Amiga is a German computer.     :-D

So, if I only own an Amiga, I couldn't play mp3s even if I have a player for them, only because I have an Amiga. Hmm, is this a new form of racism? :-(

Varthall

[JoNty]

@DoomMaster

May I remind you, MOD and SMUS are both tracker based formats. MP3 is streamed. Two completely different things. How you can compare MOD and SMUS to a streamed format is beyond me.

Gonna reply? Heh. Probably not. They never do.

-
JoNty

[Borut]

Use Prayer 2 - on 030 50 mhz and low quality its ok but it could be better.

If You have an DVD player with mp3 than use it or a PC if U have or buy the !MAS-Player! hardware ;-)

[Framiga]

by wildstar1063 on 2003/10/18 6:34:21

Is it possible to play MP3s on an Amiga 3000T with a
stock 030 25mhz, without the sound constantly starting
and stopping?

for MP3s at full quality, you need at least 040 at 40 Mhz.

With my 040 at 30 Mhz, i can play with SongPlayer 1.45 (the lightest one) at low quality Stereo with Paula and at MID QUALITY MONO with the RepulseGold card through AHI.

So i doubt that you can listen MP3s decently on your system.

Ciao

[mendark]

Interesting post. I've read but I just see that you've got an 25Mhz version of an 030. Because I would mention that I played mp3s for years on my 030@50. Just play it on half rate (22050hz), mono (saves a lot of speed!) and then try the best quality setting. AFAIK was it option 1 (0,1,2).
Good luck, let us know :-D

Oh and, i use amplifier and/or prayer. Those are the fastest. Don't let you get distracted by the programmer of Prayer which claims she's a photomodel. It's just a "marketing" strategy ;-)

[Karlos]

wildstar1063 wrote:
Is it possible to play MP3's on an Amiga 3000T with a
 stock 030 25mhz, without the sound constantly starting
 and stopping?

Thanks

Chuck

If you dont want to get a beefier system I'd say one of those parallel port MHI decoder things would be good. Or perhaps a delfina DSP based soundcard (IIRC there were mpeg decoders written for its DSP).
For CPU based decoding through paula, forget it, unless you can live with 11kHz 8-bit mono.

Under 680x0 you really need at least a fast 040 to get any joy. My 25MHz 040, which is what, 4x faster than 030 @25MHz, can manage 22kHz 14-bit stereo, but it uses so much CPU (havent tried a libmad based decoder yet, might be better). For better quality an 060 is essential. Lukily for me, I use a BlizzPPC and can use ppc based decoders such as amiga amp which works a treat (apart from that time I mistakenly 'upgraded' to AHI v5)...

[Linchpin]

So... What chance would my a500+ with 2mb chip ram have of playing 44khz stereo mp3?

heh Heh :-D

[Karlos]

_LinchpiN_ wrote:
So... What chance would my a500+ with 2mb chip ram have of playing 44khz stereo mp3?

heh Heh :-D

Assuming your parallel port can move more than 20k/s and there is a 68000 based driver then probanly very high with a MHI based decoder... ;-)

[ptek]

Is it possible to play MP3's on an Amiga 3000T with a
stock 030 25mhz, without the sound constantly starting
and stopping?

Of course it is ! Even with a plain 68020 14Mhz ...

Well ... It's possible, not by the most direct way ...

Try
14bit-and-mp3.lha

A guide I made on this matter. Maybe it suits you.

(BTW : my e-mail address on the guide is now obsolete)

[kd7ota]

DoomMaster wrote:
MP3s are best played on PCs and home DVD players and on MP3 players.  The Amiga has its own forms of music that works really well.  Mod and smus are examples of Amiga music formats.  Do PC stuff on a PC.  Do Amiga stuff on an Amiga.  Do not try to mix the two.  Remember, the Amiga is a German computer.     :-D

Edit by Kees - Personal insult

Or maybe we can meet up with this guy on IRC and just laugh together?  :-D

[wildstar1063]

Thanks everyone for all the good info,
 I believe in the interum, I'll play around with the
 2 software players mentioned, but I'll probably
 be looking for a Delfina card on eBay or maybe
 building that MAS-Player thing.

I can already play MP3's on my B/W G3 MAC and my iBook
 but I would like the amiga to do it as well.

Is it possible to convert an MP3 to an audio format that
 the amiga can handle?

Thanks

Chuck

[Doobrey]

wildstar1063 wrote:
Is it possible to convert an MP3 to an audio format that
 the amiga can handle?

Yup, you can decode MP3s to hard disk, but then you`d need around 10x the amount of disk space to store them all.

[leirbag28]

WildStar1063 :Is it possible to convert an MP3 to an audio format that
the amiga can handle?


 Yes!   convert it to 21khz 8 bit IFF...........you will hardly notice the difference
 I digitize my own music in an Amiga format using DSS8+ at about 19.9 khz   and they take about the same amount of space as MP3's  and even a plain Amiga can play them nicely...........everyone asks me what did I use to digitize this music and play it back at such good quality?

 I tell them DSS8+       To listen to great quality music on the Amiga.......it doesn't have to have the .mp3 extension. Your PC owning friends wont know the difference.

And as fo everyone here who thinks Amigas cant play MP3's

 Ever heard of a MAS Player?     some of you need to get out more.......really!  Doesnt a PC use hardware to decode MP3?  well so do Amigas............ I hear yo say, no! they do it with sofware...........yes but that software is hitting the PC hardware wich is powerfull to play MP3, so we Amigans have the MASPlayer hardware!  Get One!   and tell this dude to ask EYETECH or someone to manufacture them and advertize them more.

[redrumloa]

Is it possible to convert an MP3 to an audio format that
the amiga can handle?

Sure as long as you have oodles of hard drive space. One program that comes to mind (IIRC) is Forrest on Aminet. It will convert the MP3 to a WAV file which even a stock A500 could play (with the proper libs)

[Tomas]

So... What chance would my a500+ with 2mb chip ram have of playing 44khz stereo mp3?

Should handle it fine, if you get a hardware decoder for it  :-)

[amigamad]

Remember, the Amiga is a German computer.  

And that would make what difrence besides i thought commadore were american .

using a masplayer you only need a 7mhz machine .

convert the MP3 to a WAV file which even a stock A500 could play (with the proper libs)

but a 5 meg file becomes 50 meg your going to need a large hard drive on an a500 .