Why I had to leave

[DarkGlobe]

I was just summarising the situation as I saw it rather than stating as fact what will happen. Obviously I don't know. I know nothing.

Hopefully they will make good on their promise.

[Hooligan_DCS]

Tomas wrote:

Well AmigaINC still promises that they will make os4 avaliable for free for people with coupon... I wonder where you got this info from? who said they wont get os4 when it has been released?

Oh they have promised a lot of things. Maybe we could start a bet on this?
I'll put in $5 for Amiga Inc. NOT paying Hyperion for free OS4's when it's done.

[Tomas]

Eyetech/Hyperion and dealers made it clear that they wouldn't hounor the coupons.

AmigaINC say THEY themsel that theyf will take care of it... It has yet to be seen, but you cant say they will break that promise now, since OS4 has not yet been released..

AInc still haven't said an official word on how they want to hounor those coupons

well on one of the latest weekly questions on aworld, fleecy promised that amigainc will still hounor those coupons...

[Tomas]

Oh they have promised a lot of things. Maybe we could start a bet on this?

I dont want to make a bet on this  :-P I know they have broken a few promises, but still you cannot dismiss it yet before even os4 has been released.. People here acts like they know for 100% that amigainc will break this promise also... but hey, maybe they are all psychic  ;-)

Lets just wait until OS4 has been released, we will quickly see then if they break their promise

[Hooligan_DCS]

Tomas wrote:

Oh they have promised a lot of things. Maybe we could start a bet on this?

I dont want to make a bet on this  :-P I know they have broken a few promises, but still you cannot dismiss it yet before even os4 has been released.. People here acts like they know for 100% that amigainc will break this promise also... but hey, maybe they are all psychic  ;-)

Lets just wait until OS4 has been released, we will quickly see then if they break their promise

Thats the whole point of betting. It can go either way. $5 still stands  :-P

[Tomas]

sure, but i dont have that much faith in them myself anymore
I cannot risk to loose a whole 5 bucks  :-P
I really hope they keep it though....

[Kronos]

@Tomas
Nice selective quoting .....

1st : Eyetech/Hyperion did make it clear that they weren't responsible
for the coupons and their pre-payments, while dealers made it clear that they
wouldn't cough up the money in advance. Only afterwards this AInc
accepted theirresponsibilty.

2nd: That sentence was clearly pointing at people who allready have an A1.
People who should have gotten their money back long ago. Money that Eyetech
allready paid to AInc (maybe more, maybe less) with licence-fees.

Barry can promise as much as he wants, he just isn't very convincing unless
he delivers on older promises  (like a solution for the t-shirt-prob).

[Van_M]

I remember myself, 9 years old ('89), and owner of an Amstrad CPC, reading the greek, pro-Amiga magazine "Pixel" and  being astonished with the capabilities of the Amiga... I bought  an A500 (2nd hand) in 92 and kept it until 96. I LOVED IT! Shadow of the beast, R-Type etc, etc.... I remember how sad I felt seeing Commodore's demise... In the end, after Escom's failure, I said "That's it... it's gone! The platform's gone" and sold it for around 30.000 drachmas (around £80), complete with monitor.... I regretted it...
Back in early 2002, I wanted to check out if after Gateway's failure to deliver the goods, there were still people loyal to the Amiga. I was surprised seeing that the market still existed and there were new custom built models (*cough, cough*) coming around and a new OS... Then I forgot about the Amiga again... Until this year I discovered that a company called Genesi manufactured this PPC computer that runs an OS that resembles to the AmigaOS very much and it's really fast and efficient... I liked it very, very much... I hope that by the next spring I will able to afford a whole pegasos 2 computer (mobo,CPU, ram, Radeon, micro ATX Case, 15' TFT Monitor) --> 750 quid  :-)
now lets investigate a bit about amiga inc....  
Sorry guys but in the eyes of an outsider to the amiga community, this bunch of people (lead by Moss/McEwen) has become really comic ....
Amiga inc's recent history highlights:
1) The coupons...
2) Fleecy: (reffering to the Escena's "design") "The AmigaOne 1200 is almost ready...."
3) Fleecy: (reffering to the nonexistent OS4 back in 2001 ) "OS4 is almost ready and it ROCKS!"
4) The landlord having to sell their belongings 'cause they didn't pay the rent.....
and more, and more....

now tell me, HOW RELIABLE IS A COMPANY THAT IS ALLEGED TO BE STEALING FROM ITS OWN CUSTOMERS (coupons), IS CURRENTLY BROKE AND IN DEBT OF 2.2 MILLIONS (I wonder how exactly Mr. McEwen plans to pay back? Oh yeah I forgot OS4 will sell 10 million copies! Leave out the millions that AmigaDe will sell....) AND OVERALLY IN DEEP SH&T
(lawsuits, unpaid salaries etc.)...
In my eyes this is the lowest point for the Amiga... The only salvation that I can imagine will be if an average-to-large company, say 3dLabs or Matrox, buys AmigaIng and pulls it out of the sewer... I don't know...I really don't know.....
(sorry about my bad English)

[Madgun68]

As much as the pegasos seems to be aquality product, the truth of the matter is that it is not an amiga.Nor is Morphos Amiga, though it is "Amiga like" to many people.It is yet not fully commercial standard product in my opinion either.Despite emotional reasonings, the Pegasos and Morphos machines are a competing product to the AmigaOne and when it is release OS4.
All that aside, the Pegasos and Morphos would have been the successors to the Amiga legacy by default.

You're missing some of the story for this..

That is of course until Amiga Inc. came along and bought Amiga Technologies from Gateway.I think you are a bit harsh on these guys in what they have managed to acomplish. Without them there would be no AmigaOne, and there would be no OS4 even in the state it is atm.OF course this could not have been done without eyetech and hyperion, but it was Amiga Inc. that made this happen.They have done more than any company since commodore with far far less resources.

Amiga Inc originally had no plans for AmigaOS. (They were Amino I believe, before they bought the Amiga stuff from Gateway.) Not sure why they changed their minds, but they probably got some kind of idea that there was a huge market for AmigaOS (hence why they thought the coupon sales would be much higher than they were.)

I really wish I had copied down the story when I heard it, but I believe it goes something like this: Amiga Inc and the people behing Morphos were in talks for MorphOS to become the next gen Amiga operating system. While the MorphOS people were waiting to settle some contract disputes, Amiga Inc signs a contract with Hyperion instead.

Perhaps someone can fill in the story better, but I can see why some of the folks involved with MorphOS dispise Amiga Inc.. They feel they were betrayed.