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Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« on: September 28, 2004, 01:29:52 PM »
Scroll down and read link to see what's up, this is great considering that it is very compatable with old school games, and for the fact that used Dreamcasts are CHEAP!

http://www.dcemu.co.uk/chui/uae4all.shtml

Nearly 100% speed, which is supposed to be fixed soon.  Also they have a full speed Atari ST emu for the DC as well.
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2004, 02:55:11 PM »
Cheaper than a real A500? How to use real Amiga floppies?

Not bashing, just some thoughts. Nothing wrong with more emulators.
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2004, 03:41:47 PM »
You'd have to be very lucky to find a Dreamcast cheaper than an A500, but it's a good excuse to get an excellent console with an awesome catalogue of games. It's the console that I have by far the most games for and I generally like the games more than those for the other consoles (I do have all of them, but the Dreamcast is absolutely my favourite).

You can find a nice deal on new Dreamcasts here. I'd recommend going for the hardcore pack which has a couple of excellent games - including the very first game to be developed using a free SDK and KallistiOS.

Regarding floppies.. well, you'd put .adf files on there and play them, so think of it like an Amiga 500 jukebox.
 

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2004, 03:42:32 PM »
I think there are Dreamcast owners here, so they can tell us their impressions.

As for the real floppies, it uses adfs which you can burn on CDs (like the PC), plus you have a hardware that handles a wider range of s/w than a plain A500 (other emulators maybe, and the original Dreamcast games!).
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2004, 03:50:11 PM »
I will try that tonight.  I'm assuming that if I burn the .BIN file to CD it should boot? I have a boot cd just in case.  Or is the .BIN file a actual image of a cd.. dunno.  No directions makes it kinda hard.

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EDIT: nevermind... found directions:

Put the file on CD (multisession reccomend) then add the kickstart 1.3 renamed as kick.rom and some kind image disk of game renamed as df0.adf. All files burn and run 1st_read.bin with dc hakker or demomenu.

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Only thing I dont like is you have to rename the image to df0.adf.. only 1 game per cd?  not too good.
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2004, 04:19:41 PM »
Must be old instructions - as in a couple of days old. Latest version handles multiple floppies according to release notes.
 

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2004, 05:43:38 PM »
hmmm, why not support the real DC keyboard? It says virtual keyboard support.

Maybe in a later version...  But anyway, this is cool news!

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2004, 07:14:52 PM »
It started out with only real keyboard support ;)
 

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2004, 07:54:42 PM »
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Cheaper than a real A500?


I bought my used Dreamcast for about $15 from a local gaming shop.

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How to use real Amiga floppies?


Obviously, you have to transadf them and then you can pop them onto the CD.  I don't think this emulator has been programmed to acknowledge a CD change yet (as most other emus for the dreamcast do, allowing you to put more .adf/etc images on another CD) but it's early yet.

I'm surprised the Dreamcast has the gusto to emulate an a500 at reasonable speed (happily surprised though).

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It says virtual keyboard support.


It means that 'virtual keyboard support' has been added.  Dreamcast Keyboards were your only option with the first few versions.
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2004, 10:01:41 PM »
well if it does have the ability to use multiple disks then I will put a few on a cd.  If it DOES work, I will also put sysinfo on a bootable disk that way we can check out how fast/slow it really is.

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2004, 12:06:49 AM »
I'll have to try this emu next weekend (when I have time). Another good excuse why I got a cheap secondhand DC in June :-).

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2004, 02:17:39 AM »
well... a no go so far..  I've tried burning demomenu and dc hakker..both give me a weird message with DiscJuggler and also w/Alcohol 120%..it says "Illegal field in parameter list".. anyone know how to fix that, so I can burn one of these to a CD ? once that is done I can try this emulator..
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2004, 02:26:30 AM »
To the guy with the .bin question:
The binary file is the image, use Nero or similar to burn the image as a CD.

I've got a dreamcast. Bought in second hand for £20. Got keyboard and mouse too. I got Linux to run using the instructions provided at LinuxDevices.com (http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7466555948.html) by Bill Gatliff.

Nice cheap embedded hardware to play with. I'm planning on playing with the emulator on mine in the morning.

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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2004, 04:41:44 AM »
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a no go so far.. I've tried burning demomenu and dc hakker..both give me a weird message


Try using SelfBoot Inducer.  It will let you make a bootable discimage for DiscJuggler and Nero.  Just drop all of your files into an empty directory, add an IP.BIN file and you should be all set.  Worked for me.
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Re: Amiga with 1Mb Chip RAM on Dreamcast
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2004, 09:07:23 AM »
I used Self Boot and the open source IP.BIN file which you'll need to grab from here:

http://www.dcemulation.com/dl/dl.php3?url=files/needed/Selfboot.exe

and here:

http://files.frashii.com/~sp00nz/Doom/files/ipfull.rar

All you need to do is install Self Boot, make a directory anywhere on your hard drive called amiga.

Open up the IPFULL.RAR and fine ip.bin and extract that to the root of the amiga folder. Open up the UAE4ALL Rar file, and extract 1st_read.bin to the root of the Amiga folder as well. Grab UAE4ALL here:

http://www.dcemu.co.uk/uae4all-24-09-2004.rar

Now place your Kickstart file into the root of the Amiga folder, and rename it to kick.rom, after which you need to copy any games you want to play into the root of the Amiga folder as well. I've not tested directories yet, it may or may not work, dunno.

Now that you have everything in its place, you'll need to open up Self Boot, tell it NO when it asks if you'll be using CD-Record or not, then select and highlight the Amgia directory, hit OK, then tell it you want to burn a Disc Juggler image, then when it says it is done (check for the DOS window that may not pop up to the top), you'll be able to burn that image in Disc Juggler or Alchohol, if neither work, then try the various Nero settings.

Anyhow, once all of this is said and done, you'll have a CD Image in the root of the Self Boot program directory which is in the root of C:\ by default.

If you image does not work, then like I said before, try burning it with different types of CD images, or try burning at a lower speed. At any rate, you should not have any trouble.

Also check out:

doomdc.tk


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