Firefox 1.0PR released this morning

[Ni72ous]

Mozilla have released a pre-release of Firefox 1.0 browser this morning.

LINK

[Ni72ous]

About 50% of the extensions i use dont work with it :-( the most missed atm is AdBlock, hope they update it soon.

[GPT]

What happend to the amiga Mozzila project that people donated money to?

[Pyromania]

Almost daily updates to the AmiZilla mailing list & AmiZilla CVS. Jeff Sheppard is working hard on the port with others. He already has nspr ported.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/nspr/

More information on

www.amizilla.net

Then click on AmiZilla Message Board

[Acill]

Amizilla is alive and moving along well. Go joing the mailing list mentioned.

[amigamad]

About 50% of the extensions i use dont work with it

Thats annoyying then adblock is great i have a lot of extesions on my mozzila so i guess its not worth changing at the moment im using 0.8 and it works fine . :-)

[steveod]

AdBlock said it wasn't going to work on mine and then I just did and update and it again said it wasn't updating anything. Next thing I know it says in the extensions that AdBlock will work as soon as I restart Firefox. I did and it worked, don't really know what I did if anything, but it works.
-Steve

[Ni72ous]

I tried to update AdBlock and it failed, i looked for an update manually on their site, but the only build was the same i had installed, tried update in extensions window this morning and it installed what appears to be the same build and it works  :-D

[Floid]

Extensions have some sort of version tag in them that indicates which version of the browser they're intended for.  This, in theory, prevents incompatibility problems.

In practice, it means that every extension author has to scramble to test and 'recertify'/modify their extensions for new builds, no matter what.  (Beats having chunks of old extensions active or breaking things 'invisibly,' but then... as of 0.9, that could still happen.)

I expect there's fair room for improvement, but they seem to be taking the approach that, *in theory,* the bloat of backwards-compatibility itself can be pushed out to an extension... which could even be a valid philosophy, if someone were  maintaining one.  (More likely they'll try to stabilize the API across the 1.0 series, and hope someone gets around to further overhaul of the extensions system before whatever the next major will be - 1.1 or 2.0?)

[Wilse]

Just downloaded it and tried it on this win98 laptop and IE is about 5 times faster. :-?

[Blomberg]

Just downloaded it and tried it on this win98 laptop and IE is about 5 times faster.

Rendering or loading?

If it's loading, you have to keep in mind that IE has an (unfair) advantage in that it is preloaded with Windows, hence the faster reaction time compared to other browsers.

[Wilse]

Rendering or loading?

Both.

[Waccoon]

I use it, but it's still loaded with bugs.  Profiles get trashed.  All browser windows and tabs close if one page crashes.  Java applets will bring it down very hard and I have to restart Windows to get it running again.  I've recently found out that the "hover" CSS properly is completely broken in 9.3, as links on my website will only occasionally underline on mouseover, with no rhyme or reason.  The annoying "using double quotes makes the Alt-key get stuck" bug is still a problem -- it happended to me as I typed this.  Arrrgh!

If it wasn't for popup blocking and the awesome "WebDeveloper" extension, I'd avoid it.  At least now that it's going 1.0, there shouldn't be as many extension conflicts.

I still think it's better than IE, but I really wish people didn't drool over it so much.  Firefox is just as screwed up as IE if you really work with it, and as a web developer, I'm a more than a little ticked off at how badly it works.

I have Opera on my machine, and I'm seriously thinking about buying it.  It doesn't emulate "quirks mode" as well as Firefox, but "standards mode" is perfect and the browser is both rock stable and super fast.

IE is faster

It's about the same.  Booting is slower, but rendering is the same.  Opera is fastest at booting as far as I can tell, but renders slower and is not very responsive.  But, they're all pretty slow and use waaaaay too much memory.  Firefox idles at 35Megs of memory on my machine, and as I'm typing this it is using 112Megs of memory.  Cripes -- it wasn't long ago when Windows (or any other OS) didn't even use that much!

[Blomberg]

Hmm, the only gripe i have with it currently is the download manager, which for some reason will not close properly every time. This used to work great before 0.8 (iirc).

That's on Windows, though, on Linux it's another matter. I get random crashes, mostly caused by flash pages (evil, i tell thee) and java. Also severe memory leaks, it often uses over 100 mb of ram, with just one window showing google.  :-?

It's still by far the best browser I've ever used, been using it (almost) exclusively since some time in the Phoenix days (0.4 or so). I only occasionally have to use IE for those pages that just suck.

[Waccoon]

Hmm, the only gripe i have with it currently is the download manager

Yeah, that sucks, and hasn't gotten any better.  What bugs me is that the download manager will pop-up when I save images from pages, which doesn't make sense since the files are already local, and it will NOT always close when downloads have finished, even when you have that option explicitly selected.  The best you can do is disable the feature to automaticly show the download manager when starting a download.  I have the "downloads" button next to my address bar, since they changed all the hotkeys in 9.3, too.  I sure hope that since Firefox has gone to 1.0, they will stop moving everything around.

That's on Windows, though, on Linux it's another matter. I get random crashes, mostly caused by flash pages (evil, i tell thee) and java.

Really?  Flash hasn't given me any trouble on either Windows or Linux.  Try downloading the latest player from Macromedia as a stand-alone, instead of using the .XPI auto-installer.

Flash is a major CPU hog, though.  DON'T view more than one Flash page at a time or your browser probably will lock up.  This is true on all browsers, I've found.

As for Java, well, 1.4.2_05 has proven to have quite a few bugs.  I have IE set up to use the MS Virtual Machine and Firefox with Sun Java.  Both Java engines cause lots of problems.  I don't know why people like Java so much.