Win XP SP2 "turns Firewire 800 into Firewire 100"

[DonnyEMU]

Gee getting back on subject why do Amiga folks need to take pot shots at Microsoft.. I have firewire on my laptop (which is running an sp 2 release candidate at the moment an I don't see there is any truth in what is being said here..

Why must folks here continually post anti-microsoft sentiment and suggest facts that are not in evidence.. I think even you folks that don't like M$  should really try for once to get a grip.. Don't believe everything you read..

[Acill]

Whats the number of Mac users here on Amiga.org? My firewire is working fine still with the new MacOS X 10.3.5 update!  :lol:

[System]

What's the dates on these older stories?  If I'm right, I'm guessing rather old.  Otherwise, if you'll note, each one of these stories is something we feel that our users might have a casual interest in, or in the case of this story, might affect them directly.  

Are you suggesting that to be "more fair" about things, we ought to cover ALL Microsoft stories on Amiga.org?  

The fact that various non-Amiga specific stories are occassionally posted is just a different perspective on the issue.  besides, there are people here that would simply love it if we stopped posting news items about (in no particular order);

- MorphOS and the Pegasos
- the AmigaOne and AmigaOS (since it's "not a true Amiga" -- quoting some)
- Microsoft or other general interest stories
- news items about (insert villainized company of the week here)

So, who's right, and who's wrong?  Shouldn't everything be posted that is of interest to any of our users, or should we just stop carrying news altogether....?  Wait, that won't please everyone either...  

Wayne
(hint: The fact that I make the rules goes a long way here...) :-)

[System]

Gee getting back on subject why do Amiga folks need to take pot shots at Microsoft..

In reference to FastRobPlus, he's partially right in a manner of speaking.  There is a very definite tendency on the part of some zealotous Amiga users to compensate for the shortcomings of the classic Amiga by bashing everything else.  "I like system X, so everything else must suck"..  That's only natural as a defense mechanism.  

The only thing I truly resent about Rob's comment is that he wants to extend that to Amiga.org's staff, which is simply not the case.  We're simply trying to serve our userbase, and the general sentiment behind Rob's comments are a little insulting...  

Then again, perhaps I'm a bit sensitive considering all the beatings I've taken from various Amiga.org users over the years in exchange for trying to provide a free service.

[System]

By the way, sorry for being off topic, but I don't actually have anything with Firewire, nor am I running SP2, so there's not much I can say about the actual subject.

[FastRobPlus]

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So, who's right, and who's wrong? Shouldn't everything be posted that is of interest to any of our users, or should we just stop carrying news altogether....? Wait, that won't please everyone either...

Wayne
(hint: The fact that I make the rules goes a long way here...)
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As webmaster, here's what you should do:

Keep whatever format encourages the type of users you want to see.

Example: If you are okay with these flare-ups that seem to always follow a "news" story that says "Have you heard about the latest rumor about M$' ineptitude?" then keep them coming.

Looking over the stir this news item has caused, I think it's safe to say that at least some users of Amiga.org are uncomfortable with the sheer negative sentiment unleashed in these threads.

I guess what I'm saying is, the worst thing that could happen is you alienate some of us so much that we move on.  No big loss if you think about it.  After all, since we don't spend cycles hating "M$" or whatever else you are against, what do we have to contribute?

I'm just someone who collects Amiga...

[Fats]

As the current poll illustrates and our server log supports, most of our users are Windows users, and in fact, quite a few of those Windows-using Amiga.org members use XP. As such, a miscellaneous news item warning them of potential problems seems harmless enough.

I would prefer that is posted in the 'Alternative Systems' forum but I didn't want to cause a controversy either.

[StevenJGore]

People who type Microsoft as 'Micro$oft' or 'M$' need to grow up.

[T_Bone]

Nothing like an article about Microsoft to get eveyone {bleep}ing about everything!
 :lol:

[System]

Rob?

I really can't do anything about the fact that you have some type of persecution complex over Microsoft.  If you refuse to listen to reason, insisting that things are only done the way you believe, then there's really;

1) No reason to continue this conversation
2) A very high likelyhood that you would be unhappy with ANY Amiga-based site.

[amigamad]

As said earler most users here use there pc to access this site i use mine for web browsing because its quicker and easier . I used my amiga for about two years when i had 56k dialup but now i need modern standards like flash and realplayer plugins and other stuff.

 :-)

[Paul_Gadd]

Pure jealousy. just because Microsoft are where Commodore should have been.

What have you got? KMOS  :lol: says it all.

[FastRobPlus]

Hey!  What happened to my avatar?  

A little vindictive to remove it, don't you think?

That avatar was a piece of an image that graces Amiga.org's home page from time to time under "random photo"!

[FastRobPlus]

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2) A very high likelyhood that you would be unhappy with ANY Amiga-based site.
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Can't be more wrong there, I'm afraid.

Back to the Roots is a great Amiga site.  I've even contributed to it by getting Microsoft  (I know: boo! hiss!) to write up a release and allow BTTR to offer Leaderboard and Links for download.

[DanDude]

Microsoft's at it again!   Bwahahahahahahaha...

Another 128,000 bugs to sort thru...

God, how we love Windows!!

(throws pc out the window)

                    (crash)

I can't wait until I get my copy of AmigaOS4...

[System]

The avatar was removed because it is a violation of posting guidelines, and you were PM'd on that as well.  If you will, point out the original picture and it will be removed as it should not be on the site either.

edit: original image removed, thank you FastRobPlus.