Win XP SP2 "turns Firewire 800 into Firewire 100"

[amigamad]

THE MODERATOR of the RME forum has warned that installing Windows XP SP2 can lead to the bus speed being limited to 100Mbit/s.

Matthias Carstens posted the message on the RME forum yesterday, but says it's not a problem particular to RME products. He said: "It affects any Firewire 800 device. If you have a FW800 PCI card and an FW 800 hard disk, go see the bits come one by one through the Firewire cable".

Full article is here The inquirer

[Matt_H]

Given that Firewire is an Apple invention, I wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional. I don't trust M$ to do anything honestly.

[Tigger]

IEEE-1394 (what apple calls Firewire, and Sony calls i.Link) is actually a TI invention not an Apple invention (much like Apples old bus standard Nubus).  And since more Windows XP PCs were sold with firewire last year then Apple sold computers its a pretty big issue for microsoft.  However it should be a pretty simple fix.
       -Tig

[blobrana]

Hum,
i think your right but you can hack into it...

See...

Basically the idea behind it, is that they`re trying to stop multiple connections being set up by zombie machines...

[Fats]

I really wonder what this item is doing in the news section of an amiga site. Can we keep a little bit focused (and I mean not Microsoft bashing)
Next thing is a moderator on some obscure forum that warns that listening to Bush can harm your brain. :-)

[Matt_H]

@ Tigger

Er... whoops. My mistake :-)

[FastRobPlus]

M$ is at it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man!! I H@TE this @#iT!!

I wanted to use firewhatever on my A500 later today, and now I hear about this!  Next thing M$ will do is make it so the 500 can't even install SP2!!!!    Goddangit!!!  When wil the madness end?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?

?!?!


PS - Still mad.

[FastRobPlus]

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I really wonder what this item is doing in the news section of an amiga site.
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@ Fats

As an Amiga owner, you are required to hate Microsoft.  And for some odd reason, to not hateMac or Linix, even though they are not Amiga.

Remember - anything big is evil.  Anytihng sucessful is evil.  You are also required to hate Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls, and the New York Yankees, and if you are outside the US, you are most likely required to hate Lance Armstrong.

Basicly, this site is about raising Amiga up by hating MS Windows, and chrotling in glee like a little kid when any thing - no matter how small does not work properly in the Windows OS.

[System]

As the current poll illustrates and our server log supports, most of our users are Windows users, and in fact, quite a few of those Windows-using Amiga.org members use XP.  As such, a miscellaneous news item warning them of potential problems seems harmless enough.  

The inclusion of a Miscellaneous warning to our users about potential problems they may face isn't Microsoft-bashing, nor is it intended to suggest that Windows isn't a far superior product (it is -- solely on the fact that Windows has had 10 years to grow where the Amiga OS has sat fairly dormant).  We simply want to make sure that our user base is well aware of potential problems they may face in the future, regardless of what operating system they are forced to use by either work, personal choice, or even practicality.

(FWIW, IMHO, if Commodore had not died in 1994/5, things might have been a lot different today).

[System]

Basicly, this site is about raising Amiga up by hating MS Windows, and chrotling in glee like a little kid when any thing - no matter how small does not work properly in the Windows OS.

Absolutely incorrect, and the fact that you would think that way is a little sad.

Personally speaking, I -- like most users here -- am a strict Windows user, outside of Amiga Forever.  This is NOT because I *want* to be, but because the classic Amiga is a very impractical machine for *my* business use.

[FastRobPlus]

A quick scan reveals an image of Gates in the guise of a Natzi.  A news sotry stating: "Bill Gates refused entrance to the White House"

While that can all be passed as humor and satire, please understand that there are those who come to this site who want to talk about Amiga, not Microsoft.  

These same folks are actualy smart enough to  navigate to "The Inquirer" or "The Vulture" or "Slashdot" on thier own.

Tell you what, I'll go right on saying that Amiga.org users are haters whenever a thread comes up that's basicly a "Look at what we can call out M$ on today" and has no Amiga value.

If you are right, those threads should be very rare indeed.

[SWAUG]

The visitor web logs are MS biased because IMHO:

1. Lots of people surf from work/colleges/friends houses/cyber cafes with errr.. PCs, not Amigas.

2. Lots of people have a work laptop to take home.

3. Lots of people havent invested in internet connectivity for their Amigas so use their PC instead

4. No CSS / Flash / Real player enabled browsers on the Amiga yet even though IBrowse is excellent.

[FastRobPlus]

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2. Lots of people have a work laptop to take home.
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That's exactly my case.  I've used iBrowse and Voyager, but even under fast emulation in UAE, I tend to just use IE.

[dammy]

Poster: Wayne  Posted: 2004/8/11 15:50:47

Personally speaking, I -- like most users here -- am a strict Windows user, outside of Amiga Forever. This is NOT because I *want* to be, but because the classic Amiga is a very impractical machine for *my* business use.

The only real time I will use Windows anymore is either for my favorite game or having to be portable and use it on an old laptop.

For business, the only thing I'll use M$ for is printing of labels end evelopes.  However, the more I use Glabels, the less I need M$ Office.  OpenOffice and GNUmeric meet most of my needs.  

Dammy

[DonnyEMU]

Gee getting back on subject why do Amiga folks need to take pot shots at Microsoft.. I have firewire on my laptop (which is running an sp 2 release candidate at the moment an I don't see there is any truth in what is being said here..

Why must folks here continually post anti-microsoft sentiment and suggest facts that are not in evidence.. I think even you folks that don't like M$  should really try for once to get a grip.. Don't believe everything you read..