H&P: AmigaOS4 design competition

[Rogue]

@kronos

Or in other words : " We'll pay you 0.0 upfront, but you might get a few ct when it works out"

Unless you know the specifics, you are just making things up. Not exactly confidence-inspiring.

[ptek]

After the Amithlon shameless episodes, my consideration for Haage & Partner is this :  :pissed:

[T_Bone]

Unless you know the specifics, you are just making things up. Not exactly confidence-inspiring.

Neither is the previously set precident that suggests this is likely.

[Kronos]

@rOGUE  :-P

Just read the orginal call by H&P and you will see that they just said that (with more words offcourse).

Add to that their past handlings with other peoples IP (Miami in OS3.5, Genesis in 3.9, Amithlon ....), and you just can't avoid aggreeing with my shortened version :-(

[Rogue]

Just read the orginal call by H&P and you will see that they just said that (with more words offcourse).

I doubt the original call by H&P said something like "you might get a few ct".

Add to that their past handlings with other peoples IP (Miami in OS3.5, Genesis in 3.9, Amithlon ....), and you just can't avoid aggreeing with my shortened version

I didn't say anything about agreeing or not, only that you don't know any specifics so you could have refrained from posting.

Oh, well...

[KennyR]

There are copyright icons by JoBBo and Ocinel appearing in these screenshots - this is piracy. Toaks, please stop ripping other people's hard work.

[System]

Kenny,

Don't be rediculous.  Screenshots are not icons, nor are they usable for anything but screenshots.  Screenshots are not piracy in any way, shape, or form.

[Paul_Gadd]

Showing a copyrighted film "Labyrinth" in a screengrab is just unacceptable.

Copyright infringement "unauthorized reproduction", Labyrinth was never released by TriStar Pictures as a Divx film and they certainly did not post a screengrab of a Divx conversion of their film, which is playing on AmigaOS. so if you did get permission from TriStar Pictures then do state so, otherwise your breaking copyrights.

[KennyR]

@Wayne

Several of those icons come from icon sets that are ONLY available on the official MorphOS CD or on the MorphOS FTP (only available to Pegasos owners). They were produced under licence. Ergo, their use by someone who doesn't own a Pegasos or a MorphOS CD is piracy. Say what you like, that's the law. Whether or not they're used in a screenshot is immaterial.

And I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if people kept ripping bits of your PHP code and using them to help a competitor.

[cecilia]

so, who says one of these folks doesn't have a peg?
just asking.....

[Hammer]

@KennyR
Depending on the jurisdiction; refer to any laws that governs 'fair use'/'fair dealing" clauses.

@Paul_Gadd
Depending on the jurisdiction; you have precedence in fan web sites e.g. Star wars and Star trek fan sites. They operate in the basis of 'fair use'/'fair dealing' clauses.

[Hammer]

And I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if people kept ripping bits of your PHP code and using them to help a competitor.

There’s a level coding before copyright kicks in i.e. “hello world” style code snippets wouldn’t be enough.

[Kronos]

@cecilia

I think it is safe to assume that Toaks doesn't have a Peg. Don't ask my why, but somehow I'm 100% sure bout that  :-P

@Hammer
"fair use" refers to stuff you got in a legal way, and than use it different to what the EULA may state.

There is no legal way of getting these icons other than buying a Peg.

[cockney_dave]

@Kronos

There is no legal way of getting these icons other than buying a Peg.

Errrrr.... buy Mac OS X maybe as that's where a lot of the icons in Toaks screenshots originate, not Morph OS.

[xeron]

Jesus christ people, when did you all become "copyright crusaders"? How does posting a single frame of labyrinth hurt tristar? How do you know he didn't rip the DivX from his own DVD? How much money do you think Genesi are losing by someone using some icons from morphos, that could have been cropped from a morphos screenshot anyway?

Get a sense of perspective here.

[Warface]

How much money do you think Genesi are losing by someone using some icons from morphos, that could have been cropped from a morphos screenshot anyway?

Probably the same damage, when I'm using bits of my legal AmigaOS3.1 under MorphOS? :-) I have some faint recollection of some Bill McEwen being very sensitive upon such issues... :-) (As the latest Executive Update seems to date from 23-Dec-01, it's rather hard to find it, however.)

Copyright OFFTOPIC: Did you know that amiga.hu received threats from Amiga Inc. to either pay or remove copyrighted Amiga Inc material (eg. the Amiga logo) back in the McEwen period? Did you know that pegasos.hu received a Genesi 'Best of Web Award' instead of threats for using Genesi copyrighted material? Just mentioning as a side note  :-D