AmiNetRadio 3.0 Released

[gary_c]

AmigaOS4 IS the legitimate direction purely because it is the only OS solution officially supported by the owners of the Amiga platform. That is why I said that this fact cannot be disputed - it can't.

No, it can't be if you want to define "legitimate" that way. But in the real world this "legitimacy" has no value except to people such as yourself who want to give it value for sentimental or other personal reasons.

Here we have an example of people making practical choices based on the realities of the situation. What does it matter what the name is? People using MorphOS feel at home as they did with their older computers, and that reality is what counts, not some external idea of "legitimacy".

-- gary_c

[Jupp3]

@takemehomegrandma

and the "but ... but ... it's not compiled from the original 3.1 sources" argument, which is an equal insane and artificial argument.

Well, at least it's not as insane or artificial than the "MorphOS is based on stolen AmigaOS sources!1!1" -argument :-)

The good thing is, I haven't seen anyone claim that in a very long time

@amigazeux - Thanks for update to this great piece of software! :pint:

[Targhan]

@Tomas

I fear the problem is older than you think.  This has been going on for a long time before this announcement.  You could say that the problems are finally coming to a head.  

(I know I'm a MOS guy, but I still have my A1200.  That means there is new software that will not work on _my_ Ami's too.)

-Targhan

[KennyR]

Tomas wrote:
I think what pissed off most AmigaOS supporters, was the fact that it was used as a way to promote MorphOS in favor of AmigaOS. The press release hinted about how much better MorphOS is, and then telling people that they should "upgrade" to MorphOS..

The press release said no such thing! It said that we believe that MorphOS is the upgrade path. That's a bit different than telling everyone like it was fact, somewhat like OS4 fans do every single day...

[Argo]

Are we still going on about this? Gessh. Give it a break. The developers made a choice that they are free to make. I do feel that things could have been worded abit better.
Try it out and see if it works first.
Further Red/Blue nonsence may be taken as off-topic. IE. Post may get edited or deleted.

[KennyR]

The update is ready, here. It fixes some bugs noticed on release (all platforms) and now includes the 68k ptplay library for protracker playback.

[amigamad]

No body complained when deliplayer became pc only the link for the windows version is here. It supports 230 formats  http://www.deliplayer.com/ :-?

[KennyR]

Nobody is complaining that Art Effect is coming out for OS4 either. Where is all the whining and indignation and threating to make software not work on OS4 there, just because they release for the platform they want to support? 'Disgusting attitude'. Heh.

[GadgetMaster]

I apologise if any of my comments caused greif to anyone. Its a bit of an unfortunate situation really, in this small market developers are too few and its just a little disheartening to see programmers leave. It was inevitable i guess. The effects of the changed Amiga landscape are here to stay and maybe we should be a little more accepting of that fact.

People have already decided what platform they are going to stick to and not much will change that.

I guess this whole saga was blow out of proportion :-)

Thanks for the effort and todays update guys. after all was said and done I think it was a genuine goodwill gesture.

[Warface]

Hell, MOS wont even run on a PPC based classic Amiga, so whichever way you look at it, the two Operating Systems are severly seperated by this barrier alone.

Strange. There is MorphOS 1.4 in closed betatest for the classic PPC Amiga systems. Closed betatest, just like OS4. At least get your facts right.

Edited by Argo: Removed Trolling Remark.

[Warface]

Unfortunately though, due to this whole sad affair, MOS has been forced to re-invent itself as a new platform.

The only re-invention so far I've seen was in case of OS4. I've been here on a.org seeing the whole "evolution" through the news. Radeon 2D drivers. IDE DMA driver. Version running on a PPC board. And I will still sit here: Watching when finally JIT will be integrated. Waiting for the Graphics system being 32 bit from ground up. And so on and so on...

Reading these news from a system which already had these features ages ago. AmigaOS4 truly has the name. But it has years of handicap as well, and a lot to catch up with. A lot to re-invent, which is already here before me.

And users who never cease to amaze me with their blind hate towards those who provided to me and many others a migration path (albeit thanks to Amiga Inc we cannot call it Amiga).

One day, if Amiga Inc decides to make war with Hyperion (just as they did with Haage und Partner, MorphOS developers, and as they've screwed Amithlon as well) will Hyperion and OS4 developers be heretics too?

[Brian Hoskins]

My facts are right - MOS1.4 WONT run on my classic PPC Amiga.  As you correctly pointed out, it's in closed beta-test.  I've also heard, and I've no idea what truth is in it, that MOS is not really seriously being developed for the classic Amiga platform anymore.  If it were never released for classic Amiga, I wouldn't be suprised.

But the fact remains, I can't run MOS1.4 on my classic Amiga - which is what I said.

As it happens, I wasn't using that as flame bait, you have turned it into one yourself.  All I was trying to point out is that the two "solutions" are seperated, which isn't an ideal situation because sure, if it DID run on my classic Amiga I'd definately give MOS a fair go

Regarding your comments about AmigaInc, I don't disagree at all.

Brian

[Doobrey]

I think what pissed off most AmigaOS supporters, was the fact that it was used as a way to promote MorphOS in favor of AmigaOS. The press release hinted about how much better MorphOS is

Why can`t people read an article for what it actually says rather than what they want it to say?

The Morphos version has some better features compared to the 68k OS3.x version..
 Yet people are taking it as another attack against OS4.
 The ANR guys give this app for free, yet all people can do is moan and criticise instead of thank them for their effort, no wonder there`s a shortage of new software thesedays..

[Argo]

@KennyR
 Your post would have been perfect if the second sentence changed to "software not work on Morphos". I'm not hearing Morphos user complaining that Art Effect is coming for OS4 not Mos.
"Disgusting Attitude" indeed. It's not one that will change the authors minds. It will more likely reenforce their decision.

[Argo]

Reading these news from a system which already had these features ages ago.

Yeah, Ain't Windows Great!  :-D

[Jupp3]

(albeit thanks to Amiga Inc we cannot call it Amiga)

Thanks to Amiga Inc. I don't know if I would even WANT to call it Amiga...