AmiNetRadio 3.0 Released

[GadgetMaster]

@KennyR

It's a "angry at people who lie every day about our own OS who then make money from our hard work on ANR" licence.

You've just invented AngerWare (TM) :-D

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I doubt it that one application or utility is enough to sell a platform so I doubt much money is to be made that way.

ANR is good software don't get me wrong but it alone would not be sufficient to significantly boost sales.

the ANR authors should feel flattered that their great software is being demonstrated.

The fact that so many people are dissappointed is for that very reason, it's good software and the users are the ones that are really losing out.

So that rules out an OS4 native version ..right? (Somehow the post didn't seem complete without that last comment) sorry :lol:

[itix]

ANR is developed and used in MorphOS. Streaming and MP3 player should work in AmigaOS still (I don't know, I sold my A1200 long ago).

[AmiDelf]

I am a Amiga user and a MorphOS user.

For AmigaOS you have so many choices! I mean:

Hippo
Eagleplayer
Amplifier
AmigaAMP
DelfMpeg
etc.

I don't find it strange using these at all. And to be honest. Amplifier way of doing Netradio is way better than the ANR sollution.

I also use ANR, but only for MP3 and OGG. For mods, I use UADE, Unix Amiga Delitracker Emulator. Which works and is the most perfectly mod player for MorphOS.

Amplifier is the player that should get the lift. I am not so glad in ANR. But everyone have their own arguments and comments about different products.

I also like SongPlayer for MorphOS better, since it's got plain MUI GUI and is fast.

ANR is good, and it's got things that I as MorphOS user can be really proud of. It has its unique functions, but it fails in areas others beats it.

If you just want a all-in-one player, then ANR is a good choice for you.

AmigaWorld.org rating:
Use: 6 of 10
Stability: 10 of 10
Functionality: 10 of 10
Total score: 8 of 10

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This is really a good all-in-one product for MorphOS. But there is lot's of other sollutions too. This is one of the things, that makes me stick to MorphOS. The community is back. I feel that it's going the right way with this.


"This has been my own personal view of this product. None else at amigaworld.org have commented this as I've done."

Regards,
Michal

[KennyR]

Gadgetmaster wrote:
the ANR authors should feel flattered that their great software is being demonstrated.

In one case, it was demonstrated to show the capabilities of an OS coded and supported by people who have restlessly thrown lies and FUD against the MorphOS project since day one. Flattered? Sir, surely you jest.

The fact that so many people are dissappointed is for that very reason, it's good software and the users are the ones that are really losing out.

That's ok, a significant portion of the users want to lose out. No, really, they must do. Why else would they want this Amiga 'divorce' and keep saying MorphOS isn't a REAL AMIGA when they know a large perecentage of Amiga software developed is now developed on MorphOS? :-)

[KennyR]

AmiDelf wrote:
I prefer SongPlayer for MorphOS better, since it's got a plain MUI GUI...

So has ANR. It now has a plan MUI.gui module.

[Brian Hoskins]

KennyR:

Since you're obviously in the mood for insult, Aminet Radio is a {bleep} program anyway so good luck.

Oh I'm sorry, you're offended?

In that case why don't you take more time to think about others you're offending before you send your posts and maybe people wont do it back to you.

On a constructive critisism note, the main reason I choose not to run AminetRadio on AmigaOS is purely because it's 68K based and really, unless you've got a hardware MP3 decoder, PPC is needed for MP3 - certainly if you're hoping to listen and do other things at the same time.  If there were a WOS version for classic AmigaOS then I'm sure it would run very nicely.

If you're the only person left in Amigazeux who actually runs an Amiga, and now you're also abandoning the platform, then maybe you should also think about naming your website MorphZeux, since it's obviously not Amiga anymore.  MOS isn't an upgrade for the Amiga platform, it's a change of platform.  I don't feel there's anything wrong at all in your decision to support MOS, but at the same time I don't see the hardship in also supporting the Amiga platform as well.  If it is your wish to support MOS only because of personal reasons then fine, but do it quietly and keep your flame-bait opinions to yourself... unless you want to look completely unproffesional all the time that is.

Just my advice.



Brian

[KennyR]

BrianJHoskins wrote:
Since you're obviously in the mood for insult, Aminet Radio is a {bleep} program anyway so good luck.

Oh I'm sorry, you're offended?

No, just faintly amused. ANR is free software, and insulting free software is pointless. If you don't like it, don't use it. The end. Anything else is pure sour grapes.

If you're the only person left in Amigazeux who actually runs an Amiga, and now you're also abandoning the platform, then maybe you should also think about naming your website MorphZeux, since it's obviously not Amiga anymore. MOS isn't an upgrade for the Amiga platform, it's a change of platform. I don't feel there's anything wrong at all in your decision to support MOS, but at the same time I don't see the hardship in also supporting the Amiga platform as well.

We believe that MorphOS is the Amiga. Legally, the brand belongs to Amiga Inc, but practically, who cares. So we don't feel the need to rename our group, channel or software just to reflect what Amiga Inc. are wasting the Amiga on today. Are we quite clear?

If it is your wish to support MOS only because of personal reasons then fine, but do it quietly and keep your flame-bait opinions to yourself... unless you want to look completely unproffesional all the time that is.

I don't mind looking unprofessional. I'm not a professional (the definition of which is that one gets paid, and I don't). And ANR isn't professional software, so...

[Golem!dk]

ANR rocks!

On a constructive critisism note, the main reason I choose not to run AminetRadio on AmigaOS is purely because it's 68K based and really, unless you've got a hardware MP3 decoder, PPC is needed for MP3

Maybe you should try installing a ppc version of mpega.library.

[Golem!dk]

MOS isn't an upgrade for the Amiga platform

It was for me.

[MAD]

Hoya!

I MUST add something to this thread...

First of all, let me say something about the situation on #AZ...
KennyR is not that right when he says he is the only #AZ member with a working Ammy.
Captain HIT, Davar (even if we haven't seen him for quite a while), K0rky and myself STILL use our beloved machines and are glad to beta-test new #AZ productions (well not me at the moment, for my Ammy is in France while I am in England...).

The main concern here is that many #AZ members, who are good mates of mine I must say, went the MOS way and, quite often, tend to denigrate AOS albeit they have used and abused it for more than a decade.

So, as a consequence, and since OS4 is not out yet thus not giving the opportunity for a REAL comparison and a REAL competition (although "competition" in the shrunk world of Amiga is, IMHO, a non-sense)against MOS, I guess the "upgrade" bit is a bit of a provocation...

Anyway, some older versions still run perfectly on AMIGA OS.

Be funky

M A D

[Cass]

Some (like OGG) take too much CPU time for real 68k CPUs. They weren't going to get non-MOS ports, and since this release is mainly about the extra players, we decided just to aim the full release at MOS.

That's a pitty, because you have to consider the latest release of Amiga Forever (v.6), or the Amithlon users, I think they have the needed power for the decoding. About the upgrade, that's what the G2 PPC for the classic Amigas is.

Finally, ANR will work on AmigaOS.

I just did a quick test of it, and runs finely, plus the P96 GUI scroller bug is removed with the ANRG GUI :-) . As for the transparencies, I think some MUI classes (or the whole MUI) have to be rewritten (they are alredy old enough...).
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MARIJUANA TRICHOMES

[KennyR]

MAD wrote:
KennyR is not that right when he says he is the only #AZ member with a working Ammy.
Captain HIT, Davar (even if we haven't seen him for quite a while), K0rky and myself STILL use our beloved machines and are glad to beta-test new #AZ productions

Ok, ok, I'm the only active member with a working Amiga. You're in England, Davar hasn't been in for months now, Cap'n^HIT only appears from time to time, and k0rky does his best but his graphics card means he does more booting than testing.

So whenever there is any real betatesting to be done, it's only myself, Gelb, ToDi, iti, and some others who are around. We are all Pegasos users. I'm the only one with an Amiga that actually boots.

And we don't denegrate AOS - we view it fondly and with nostalgia. But it was coded in 1993 and it the limit of support we can give it has been reached, finally.

[KennyR]

Cass wrote:
That's a pitty, because you have to consider the latest release of Amiga Forever (v.6), or the Amithlon users, I think they have the needed power for the decoding. About the upgrade, that's what the G2 PPC for the classic Amigas is.

A pity, yes, but not our choice. The vorbisfile.library we use for decoding is done by Nicolas DET. He isn't terribly keen on making a 68k native version, but you could always ask him nicely. If he does make one, all you have to do is drop in the new lib and go.

As for the modules, as Gelb told me a minute ago, DeliTracker is probably the better choice for these on an emulated or Amiga system. :-)

[AmiDelf]

For me...

MorphOS is as much Amiga as AmigaOS4 is. We need to go forward, stop arguing about this. Better just to face how everything is.

I wanted lots of things to happend, but it didn't come.

MorphOS is "the" AmigaOS for PPC now.

[takemehomegrandma]

Thank you for this new version of this great piece of software! I have had ANR playing the whole day now and it works great! The new GUI is excellent! Thanks again! :-) :-D

[Brian Hoskins]

@AmiDelf:

I think it would be a whole lot easier to stop arguing about this kind of thing if there were less people like Kenny running his mouth off all the time.

That said, the less people we have in the Amiga community with that kind of sad attitude the better, so in my opinion he actually does the Amiga Community a favour by switching to MOS. Whether he is doing the MOS crowd a favour remains to be seen.

Personally I have no bad feelings towards MOS at all, I do understand what MOS was originally designed to accomplish (the survival of the Amiga platform) and I do completely understand the reason for the bitterness due to the whole AmigaInc V MOS affair, which in itself is quite sad.

Unfortunately though, due to this whole sad affair, MOS has been forced to re-invent itself as a new platform.  I will agree that it is Amiga-like to use, but there can only be one legitimate Amiga platform, and at the moment AmigaOS4 is it (if we're talking legitimate).  I would also agree that AmigaInc themselves have contributed diddly-squat to the new Amiga Operating System, that is also a sad affair, but the fact remains that AmigaOS4 IS the legitimate new Amiga Operating System and due to unfortunate circumstances, MOS has now had to invent itself as a "new" platform, seperate of the Amiga platform - even Genesi markets it as such.

I've no reason to argue with any MOS users, as far as I am concerned they're just Amiga users who went the MOS direction simply because they wanted to support what they assumed would be the next generation AmigaOS.  There's nothing WRONG with MOS, it's just a sad unfortunate situation which has created this bitterness, none of us can help it.  What I do take a distaste to is attitudes like that shown by KennyR.  As I said, if that is to be his attitude, then good ridance in my opinion - whatever platform he ends up moving to.

Just my two cents.

Brian