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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2004, 11:34:28 PM »
"Asia is so far behind, technologically speaking"

In my trips to Japan and to South Korea I would say neither of those are very behind, in fact they are someway ahead of the USA.  But then Asia is a large place :)

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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (not trying to spread FUD)
« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2004, 11:39:58 PM »
Ya know, someone should fill Garry in on the history of Ford Motors sometime.  The Edsel was named after Edsel Ford, Henry Ford's son and the founder of Lincoln Motorcars.
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2004, 11:42:19 PM »
"A business card doesn't constitute a legal ID card. Not in a single place in the world, to my knowledge. You can't walk into a police station and be identified with a friggin' business card. Don't confuse the two, you'll just make a fool out of yourself."

True, but representing yourself as the CEO of a corporation is a crime. I, however, don't believe that actually happened. I strongly suspect he was CEO for an instant, and things changed.
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #77 on: March 26, 2004, 11:43:35 PM »
Hello,
There is a serious credibility problem with Garry Hare. If you want to attract Investors, don't lie or try to fool them with fake identity.

Amiga Inc, KMOS are IT companies, therefore website IS IMPORTANT.

Perhaps Garry Hare can fool investors for 1 week by quoting delay in website update, but after 1 week NOBODY would believe him.

Does Garry Hare know how to search Internet using Google or other search engines?

What Amiga Inc really need (at that time) is a good CFO and financial plan/ strategy to rescue the company and convince investors, NOT by just changing the CEO.

New CEO may help if the new CEO is from a powerful financial group (who buy Amiga Inc and pay alll debt), but such CEO did not need any new Investors.

When the whole fake card blow up, it's better for Garry Hare and Amiga Inc to make joint statement and post the explanation on Amiga Inc website.

>KMOS - Name
It's strange that a CEO CANNOT EXPLAIN the meaning  of the name of his own company. Can he change the name to something else or ask the person who coined / created the name? Is he IN CONTROL at the creation of the company?

BTW XEROX is from Xerography (see dictionary).
EDSEL came from "Excel".

>Future - Asia
If Garry Hare / KMOS can port Classic or new AmigaOS to V-Dragon CPU with Transmeta 68K code morphing, it will be a great news.

>Bill McEwen statements in the court (under oath)

1. Amiga Inc is the owner of AmigaOS IP.
(August 2003). Why ITEC or KMOS did not inform the judge about transfer of IP ownership?

2. I am not the CEO of Amiga Inc

(One of the labour case). Who is the REAL Amiga Inc CEO at that time? Can Garry Hare explain this matter? Is there any court documents about this statement?

>Fleecy Q&A.
Why Garry Hare/Kmos or ITEC did not stop Fleecy Moss from making statements/promise  about the future of AmigaOS, when Moss/Amiga Inc is no longer the owner? Does Garry Hare/KMOS approve and  still follow Fleecy Moss plan for future AmigaOS?
 

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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #78 on: March 26, 2004, 11:54:39 PM »
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True, but representing yourself as the CEO of a corporation is a crime. I, however, don't believe that actually happened. I strongly suspect he was CEO for an instant, and things changed.


That's not the case here iirc, I can go around saying I'm the CEO of blahblah, and unless blahblah charges me for impersonation, nothing will happen. It's not illegal if they don't mind, so to speak.

I remember Amiga Inc was quite enthusiastic about the possibility about having Garry Hare aboard their team.. so I doubt they would mind a tiny bit, and perhaps he would have joined..  but that's speculation.
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #79 on: March 27, 2004, 12:23:15 AM »
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That's not the case here iirc, I can go around saying I'm the CEO of blahblah, and unless blahblah charges me for impersonation, nothing will happen. It's not illegal if they don't mind, so to speak.

Not true. Whether something is legal or not does not depend on whether the target for the impersonation minds or not. Impersonating the CEO of a company is no more legal than impersonating a police officer or a doctor.

Don't confuse being legal with lack of prosecution. A lot of minor but nevertheless illegal acts go unpunished every day because they are often not worth prosecuting, but that does not make them legal or the perpetrators innocent.

I suspect T_Bone might be right and Hare did genuinely consider himself CEO when he produced and handed out the cards. However, I also suspect that what happened next is so murky that Hare and Amiga Inc would rather explain it away with some vague misdemeanour rather than admit the truth.

Just how much of this Buck knew about is questionable. There is no proof (except Hare's word) that Buck knew about it all in advance, OTOH I doubt that knowing about it would have stopped Mr Buck anyway.

Trust Hare, McEwen, Buck, Moss & co.? I think I'd rather roast my balls over a slow fire. I see no evidence of an honest man amongst them.
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #80 on: March 27, 2004, 12:33:42 AM »
handing out a card does not constitute impersonation either. if that were the case, it would be illegal to give out cards which held another name than your own.

You, Bill Hoggett, seem to judge him before hand, not even knowing what happened. Innocent until proven guilty? Doesn't look like it.
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #81 on: March 27, 2004, 12:41:56 AM »
@reflect
It's not Bill H's fault that this confusion exists, it's Garry's fault. The card said "Garry Hare, CEO Amiga inc." and handing out those cards IS representing yourself as CEO of Amiga Inc.

Add to that that Bill Mcewen even testified to it in court.

Like i said, I believe he wasn't misrepresenting himself, I believe he was anticipating being CEO, and I strongly suspect he held that position for at least an instant.
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #82 on: March 27, 2004, 12:52:59 AM »
Funny. Garry Hare business card is proven to be real. Not that it is news for us but... Oh well, I join to KennyR party: loons loons loons....
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #83 on: March 27, 2004, 01:12:32 AM »
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Trust Hare, McEwen, Buck, Moss & co.? I think I'd rather roast my balls over a slow fire. I see no evidence of an honest man amongst them.


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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #84 on: March 27, 2004, 01:15:21 AM »
"The other potential motive involves the fairly reliable rumour that Ben Hermans of Hyperion was instrumental in securing Amiga Inc's original capital investment."

This categorically untrue.

Quite frankly Bill, it's time for you to start making your own way in life.

What I am seeing is a lot of criticism on people like Garry Hare with proven track records outside the Amiga community.

What have YOU ever accomplished?

What degrees do you hold?

What positions have you held?

What job are you in now?

Being a pundit spreading nonsense on Amiga related sites is a rather poor substitute for a career.
 

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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #85 on: March 27, 2004, 01:27:04 AM »
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #86 on: March 27, 2004, 01:38:44 AM »
> What positions have you held?
> What job are you in now?

Do business cards count?
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #87 on: March 27, 2004, 01:55:40 AM »
> Not true. Whether something is legal or not does
> not depend on whether the target for the
> impersonation minds or not. Impersonating the
> CEO of a company is no more legal than
> impersonating a police officer or a doctor.

Right now, if I were Rory Bremner, I'd be quaking in my boots ;-)
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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #88 on: March 27, 2004, 01:59:09 AM »
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This categorically untrue.

OK. The rumour comes from someone who has always passed himself off as an ardent Amiga Inc supporter with close ties to McEwen and Co., so I had no reason to doubt him.

You, I have every reason to doubt, but let's say I accept your word on this occasion.

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Quite frankly Bill, it's time for you to start making your own way in life.

Frankly, my life is none of your business and I'm not trying to sell you anything either, so kindly butt out!

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What I am seeing is a lot of criticism on people like Garry Hare with proven track records outside the Amiga community.

I'm not questioning his past track record. I'm questioning his current involvement.

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What have YOU ever accomplished?

What degrees do you hold?

What positions have you held?

What job are you in now?

Being a pundit spreading nonsense on Amiga related sites is a rather poor substitute for a career.

It's not a career. It's a hobby. Irritating pompous arrogant individuals who think they own the community and resort offensive remarks is a bonus.


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Re: Interview with KMOS CEO Garry Hare (25 Mar 04)
« Reply #89 from previous page: March 27, 2004, 02:00:42 AM »
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Right now, if I were Rory Bremner, I'd be quaking in my boots.

LOL!  :lol:
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