Enterprise Unix Roundup: Is Amiga Ready for the Enterprise?

[System]

From ServerWatch comes this article which is about AmigaOS and it's possibilities as an enterprise-capable operating system.

Server Watch Article itself

[mikeymike]

Amazing how an article can claim to be about one thing, when it's really mainly about something completely different, and I doubt the author of the article has even seen an Amiga/compatible in action.

Oh well.  Even though it's not really true: "any press is good press" :-)

Although "Is Amiga ready for the enterprise?" is pushing the limits of even an optimistic appraisal of the current situation :-)  OS3x having no memory protection, privileges model or concept of multiple users (simultaneous or otherwise), and OS4x only having a concept of kernel memory protection.  I suppose it depends on what enterprise though :-)

[csirac_]

haha

[choochy]

@mikeymike

Well he never actually said that it was Ready for the Enterprise.

Amiga/compatible as in MorphOS?

[asian1]

Hello
IMO the author of this article did not understand:
1. What is the definition of enterprise.
2. What is Amiga OS.
3. What is the minimal requirement for "Enterprise class" OS.

The minimal requirements are:
A. Reliability, stability, ready to operate 24 x 7.
B. OS specially created/aimed for servers, multiprocessors, clusters.
C. Various Enterprise applications: Database, Accounting, HRD, CRM, ERP, MRP, Webserver etc.

The original AmigaOS is designed for single PERSONAL computer, not servers/super servers.
I doubt if AmigaOS 4.0 support servers, cluster, SMP etc.
Is there any support for AmigaOS from Oracle, SAP, PeopleSoft or other major ISV?

[Glaucus]

@asian1,

I believe the author was poking fun at the Amiga, or better yet, using the Amiga to poke fun at some Linux fanatics. Either way, we got some free publicity!  :-D

  - Mike

[Waccoon]

Unix is more ready for the desktop than Amiga is for the enterprise market.

I believe Hyperion has made it quite clear that OS4 is going to be a single-user system.  How can any OS be taken seriously as an enterprise system unless it offers multiple accounts and a server/client login system?

I agree, though, that the world is going Linux crazy.  Enterprise servers and such are purpose-built machines made from carefully selected hardware and meticulously organized software.  Being a server is about more than just serving web pages.  Try running Perl or PHP on an Amiga and see how secure it is with no user accounts.

Desktop machines are a mish-mash of various parts which may not like to share resources with each other.  Linux doesn't offer the flexibility that desktop users need.  Install a single rouge program on a Linux machine, and it's likely to spam, spy, and infect your system just like any Windows machine.  Amiga will be fine for a desktop machine, but for anything else, it's a joke.

Enterprise systems are already robust and powerful.  Desktop systems are crap.  Future desktop systems will probably be made from reengineered and redesigned Linux components, but Linux by itself is a joke in the desktop market.
If Amiga had been based on a "real" OS like Linux or QNX, it might have a chance at the enterprise market, and even the desktop market.  With no account system, though, OS4 is of little use but as a terminal or game machine.  Useful, but hardly worth talking about.

[Argo]

Okay, here's the plan. After Amiga has stolen the Enterprise, we plot a course for the Genesis Planet. Once there we launch Jay Miner's remains down to the surface. After about a half day, we beam down and get the young Jay. We instruct him in the way of the Amiga and his life. Then warp back to Earth to resurect the Amiga.

Uh, Oh! That kind of Enterprise... Hey, they didn't mention that it also run PHP and mySQL!!!

Wait, Why isn't this on Wrong Plant?

[SHADES]

Warp 9 Mr La forge.

[Framiga]

Poster: SHADES  Posted: 2004/3/19 8:29:04

Warp 9 Mr La forge.

yeah!! the first thought when i read the post :-)

Ciao

PS- ok it's an Amiga but. . .  ready for the Enterprise! . . . too much IMO

[mikeymike]

Well he never actually said that it was Ready for the Enterprise.

No, but it's a stupid question to even ask when this guy probably hasn't ever seen it running or know anything about it.

It would be a different story (but still a bit of a silly question) if OS4 had a privileges model, concept of multiple users, and normal memory protection etc.

"Amiga/compatible" is my way of being politically correct :-) There's also Amithlon and AROS, as well as MorphOS.

[mikeymike]

After Amiga has stolen the Enterprise, we plot a course for the Genesis Planet

I thought you said "Genesi" for a moment there :-)

[davey]

haha, very nice article.

seriously though, i wonder, is the amiga more desktop ready than linux for specific applications? I think it's definitely more usable and easier to re-configure once you understand how it works.

[mikeymike]

seriously though, i wonder, is the amiga more desktop ready than linux for specific applications?

I think it is, though not in the workplace.  See previous comments on this thread as to what I think it needs to be "ready for the enterprise", it applies to any business that cares in the slightest about computer security.

[MarkTime]

of course the author was making a joke, poking fun at industry journalists and their linux speculations.

it was just a bit of good fun.  AmigaOS is clearly not ready for the enterprise, he mentioned there is an old version of Apache which runs (albeit very poorly)...but again, it showed he probably did learn a bit about the amiga, enough to play his little prank.

I thought it was funny enough.
compared to another article about linux at least!

what is interesting about it, is that the oddest people, who have nothing at all to do with the community, run across the amiga, and have followed some of the developments.

SIGH, but there is no 'amiga' market, according to all of our illustruous leaders...its true in a way, there is no market they are capable of reaching.