Amiga Inc have sold the AmigaOS

[KennyR]

Hattig wrote:
I'm also sure that KMOS will also ensure that this situation does not occur by supplying a lawyer to stop bbrv's snatch-and-grab operation from a dying bleeding company trying to breath its last breath.

Thats rather over dramatic, and also making AInc out to be the innocent victims destroyed by an evil world. In reality, AInc made terrible business choices and jumped over the cliff into badly advised ventures with little idea of how they'd do anything. They haven't yet fallen: right now they're hanging from the ankles of the Amiga community pulling them down every day that the IPs aren't used for anything productive. Genesi may love getting the boot in, but I really wish the community would finally kick AInc off themselves and save them the trouble.

If they weren't called Amiga I very much doubt anyone would still support this company.

[Argo]

@Downix

Just one problem. You couldn't say "Based on Actual Events". Noone would believe you!

[Argo]

@Weirdami

Thanks, obviously over looked that. Guess I'll have to reread it.

[Argo]

@Tomas

I assume Magnetic's Real Name is Tom.

[KennyR]

amigabill wrote:
> Regardless of the actual validity of the claim, it's already been judged in Thendic/Genesi's favour
> as being linked to the DE. I'm not sure the judgement is reversible.

Where is this posted? I know the judgement was in favor of Genesi for the original claim for DE, and that Buck-man had filed for an ammendment to include OS4, but hadn't heard of a judgement on said ammendment yet...

There is nothing certain here and I don't pretend to know the facts. I'm speaking of certain parts of court documents published in an ANN thread (which I can't seem to reach now :-().

I'm not certain if the scans are genuine or not (but they probably are), and they seem to be rather vague and hard to understand and read, but they seem to link DE and OS4 because of Amiga Inc's own earlier rhetoric of linking them itself on Amiga.com. If you can find them you can look for yourself.

[Ilwrath]

On April 23, 2003 Amiga entered into an Agreement with Itec LLC, later acquired by KMOS, Inc. for the transfer and sale of all of Amiga's right, title, source code, and all versions, from the "Classic Amiga Operating System" through AmigaOS 4.0 and all subsequent versions to KMOS, Inc.

Wow....  That leaves a lot more unanswered questions, eh???

So, Gary Hare and KMOS own all of AmigaOS.  BUT:

1) Where does that put the Haage & Partner OS3.9 at?  

2) As for OS4, what about Hyperion?  (In their agreement, weren't they supposed to have first chance at purchasing out the OS rights, if AmigaInc backed out?)

3) What about sub-licenses like Cloanto's Amiga Forever?  Is there a chance to clear the air and get Umilator back on track?  (Or is the block by H&P?)

4) Why the hell didn't we hear this from anyone involved for almost a year?  KMOS can't really have any plans of their own for the Amiga IP if they didn't even bother to announce they bought it?

I think I'm more confused than ever as to who can do what, and why, anymore...

[Hattig]

Check out AmigaWorld (for the pro-Amiga) and ANN (for the upcoming 'it can't be true' anti-Amiga) for the new news about Amiga Inc. suddenly getting legal counsel, appealing, submitting well written evidence ... :eek:

[Marky_D_Sahd]

1) Where does that put the Haage & Partner OS3.9 at?

2) As for OS4, what about Hyperion? (In their agreement, weren't they supposed to have first chance at purchasing out the OS rights, if AmigaInc backed out?)

3) What about sub-licenses like Cloanto's Amiga Forever? Is there a chance to clear the air and get Umilator back on track? (Or is the block by H&P?)

4) Why the hell didn't we hear this from anyone involved for almost a year? KMOS can't really have any plans of their own for the Amiga IP if they didn't even bother to announce they bought it?

I think I'm more confused than ever as to who can do what, and why, anymore...

Questions 1 and 3 are especially cool, as are the following:

5). Does this mean that Hyperion might be able to hire a few new coders???

6)  How many developers were aware of this buyout for the last year?

7) How wuold Hyperion react to suddenly being supplied with OS3.9 source-code to work from?  Too little, too late?

 Will KMOS send us our $%@^#^@*%^&@#^ Tee shirts?

Just a wary note:

When Gatewy bought Amiga, it was GOOD!  But they just sat on it.
When AmigaInc bought Amiga, it was GOOD!  But they were unbelievably slow and indecisive, causing the IP to languish.
Now, KMOS haaas bought Amiga (OS, I know), and it's GOOD.
But for how long.  Wait and see, son. wait and see.

[weirdami]

@Argo

You just posted (see above) three one sentence comments in a row which seem to have no context. Were those supposed to be private messages?

[Argo]

@Weirdami

I guess you and most other member read in flat mode not threaded or nested. Anyway, I went back and edited my posts. I hope things are more clear.

So, back on topic. Anyone pop over to AW or ANN to read up on the new court docs. Wow, Just when I thought this was getting boring again. Drop in traffic, no news, no juicy rumors, no big bad trolls. Then "Wham!", Sale of AOS and Amiga, Inc. back to court with lawyers. Too Little, Too Late? Tune in tomorrow for more in this exciting drama.
Well, I have to go for now. Gotta run to the store. I'm getting low on popcorn. Save my seat.

[samo79]

Mickey write:

"release of the consumer version of AmigaOS 4.0 later this year"

What do you expect, AmigaOS4 Beta insn't out yet

[Ogy]

Reading most of the posts to this news I am suprised how many people out there DO NOT see this as a bad news!?!?! To me this means:

1. Amiga name will be sold again soon

2. Another bussiness strategy will be introduced

3. Another 5 years of waiting untill something   (if anything) happens for us consumers...

I see this just as another nail in the coffin - sorry...

Someone plaese cheer me up!!!

[itix]

Hmm... so Fleecy was bullsh*tt*ng everyone with his ridiculous "AG2 technology" and other stuff? He knew AI was no longer responsible for AmigaOS but was talking like they were.

I wonder how Club Amiga continues now? AI was selling memberships only few months ago, is KMOS going to continue this club now?

But whatever. Good to see Amiga Inc sinking to the bottom of the sea. Good bye, you won't be missed.

[Hattig]

Even if they do not sink to the bottom of the sea, we don't need to worry as the important stuff is not with them anymore.

If they want to release AmigaDE for AmigaOS (unlikely that the investors would want that) then fine, they can.

I still rather liked that mockup of AmigaDE and Sheep that they did once though.

[itix]

Yeah, and this is great news for Hyperion too (although they knew this over a year).

[Spidey]

I've the feeling we're "mislead" for quite a few months now!
Notice the " around mislead!

Is this a bad time to ask where my 50 Euros are?
And this is no joke from my side.
Does KMOS takeover this deal ones made by Amiga Inc.?

As always, no trolling from my side, just my feelings.

It's certainly interesting to read what Bill McEwen filed at the court, about saying he couldn´t contact Bill Buck, while Bill Buck said the same thing about Bill McEwen!
I find this very amusing indeed :-D

Somebody in this thread mentioned something about making a movie of this:

I clearly see it happening like BB's carrying a Pegasos to BM and at the same time BM's carrying a letter to BB. Both passing by eachother without stopping! :-)

I've got to stop now :-)

Bye,

Spidey