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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 09, 2004, 12:26:29 AM »
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Anyone who wants to see this worst solution in action and are passing through South FL, I can give free demonstrations.  :lol:
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2004, 12:41:49 AM »
@downix

My evidence against Prometheus comes from me. I used this board and I know its value.

About trust:
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2004, 12:46:22 AM »
@tjaoz

So you admit you work for Elbox then, as they're using your measurements in their marketing?
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2004, 12:50:47 AM »
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edit* plus, why discuss Matay's issues at all, when this is an AA product?


AA product??
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2004, 12:58:52 AM »
@downix

Unfortunately I do not work for Elbox. They do not use my measurements.
AFAIK Elbox have had the Prometheus board from its sales start.
 

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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2004, 02:29:40 AM »
Well I'm interested. I like to make informed decisions before purchasing.
I have dealt with Red in a ver promising way in the past, but I require a solution that will suit my needs.
My concerns are...
1. I really need to make use of 100MB Lan cards.
2. I have a fast ATA IDE PCI card that uses basmastering.
3. I have now read that Prom uses just 1 IRQ to "switch" between all PCI slots.
4. I need to have support.
5. It shouldn't cost more than my very old 4k costs. which sells here in AUS for $200 now :)

All in all, it's a very promising product, providing it does what I need it to.

I won't buy a mediator because it's the cost of a done up 4k and obviously I can't justify that. That's just being silly :)
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2004, 02:44:07 AM »
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Here are some facts:
Prometheus is unquestionably the worst PCI option on the Amiga market.


Actually, that's an opinion.
 

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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2004, 05:03:15 AM »
@redrumloa

This is great news.   :-D

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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2004, 05:53:04 AM »
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Nice news. May thou business prosper!
 

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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2004, 06:11:06 AM »
@ tjaoz

go troll somewhere else OK

@ red

did you get the supply stuff too like VGA and Ethernet extenders, for leading the cardconnectors to a backplate. I could use a least a VGA-extender for my G-RexA4000T.
If you manage to extend the number of supported drivers I migh as well be interested in a Prometheus too (there are anough non PPC Z3 machines here to put it in).
I would be interested in a single slot inline version too as the only thing I need a PCI-solution for anyway is the power of a VooDoo3 (network and Soundcards I have plenty as zorrocards, even got two PIV with Palomamodule, so no need for a TV-card too)
Not really interesting, but it`s there.
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2004, 08:59:54 AM »
"Well we need to get you one now don't we?  You have my email address, we'll be talking  "

The message was from Guido Mersmann, author of ArakAttack and AmithlonTV. I already own a Prometheus but the firmware hasn't been updated yet...

BTW, Interesting announcement :-)

Very important if you own a Prometheus, read THIS.

Check out the messages of Guido Mersmann in this thread (in german, use babelfish to translate).

It seems that OpenPCI has similar problems in other systems, the problems are memory function related, it seems that the upload rate goes down until it's 0 and there's a lock up.
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2004, 09:05:23 AM »
@Shades:
1. They'll end up working, I hope that very soon...
2. The problem is that HD controllers would need real DMA to the motherboard and Mediator&Prometheus don't have that at the moment... it may work but slowly, just like a powerflyer BTW, Tjaoz won't tell you that they didn't implement DMA to save costs in their powerflyers (and probably because they don't know).
3. My PC uses the same IRQ to switch between 3 pci cards, what's the problem? It's part of the official specification of PCI that cards should be able to share interrupts (And I doubt that Mediator uses different IRQs). Well, internally, in the Prometheus side each card has its own IRQ, but Prometheus talks with the Amiga motherboard using INT2...
4. Support is going to improve very soon (really!) ;-)
5. It's the most cost effective solution for Big box Amigas
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2004, 09:12:13 AM »
@Redrumloa:

If you produce it again, try to change slightly the design to make it look as the unreleased Mediator Zorro3, it would fit better and would require minimal changes in the layout.

and get in touch with european distributors like amigasuperbit.com, vessalia or KDH...
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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2004, 11:12:14 AM »
@ tjaoz

So if I understand/remember you well : the Highway card was the worst and overpriced Amiga USB solution of the world  some times ago and now the Prometheus card is the worst and overpriced Amiga pci solution of the world. period.

Don't you see something familiar there? :inquisitive:

We ALL know your preference for Elbox products and your continuous bashing of it's competitors.

You are not fooling anyone here, so can you return to Hell for good please?

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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2004, 01:33:59 PM »
This thread has been cleaned due to several complaints about personal agendas and attacks.  Some of the statements expressed in this thread contained legally libellous content for which Amiga.org could be held accountable.

If you don't personally like Matay or the boards or whatever, that's fine, feel free to make your point in a way that you can back up by fact.  Personal smear campaigns from competing companies or products are unacceptable here.
 

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Re: Anachronism Industries buys Prometheus from Matay.
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2004, 01:45:06 PM »
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Prometheus is unquestionably the worst PCI option on the Amiga market.

Yes... but it is a good way to upgrade your 3/4000 classic, thanks to redrumloa now also "cheap". If you want to upgarde with a better solution, the right way is the Mediator. Anyway Prometheus is a good card and can bring new life to a classic Amy :-)