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Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« on: February 05, 2004, 01:40:43 PM »
Thanks to Bill Evans, Aaron Ruscetta, and Newtek, Inc. the Amiga Video Toaster source code is being released!

http://www.openvideotoaster.org
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2004, 02:44:36 PM »
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2004, 03:29:04 PM »
Unbelievable.  Now we can get to see some OS4 look.  :-P

That would look cool.  :-)
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2004, 04:25:27 PM »
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Poster: downix Date: 2004/2/5 9:44:36

*wild applause*


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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2004, 05:08:19 PM »
Fantastic news!
 

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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2004, 07:26:00 PM »
Finally!! Thanks Newtek!
 

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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 07:26:24 PM »
The world seems to have moved on Dvd,mpeg and about 3 ghz more processing power   ?
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 07:29:03 PM »
Wow what a treat, time to get another toaster I think and lear again!!!
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2004, 12:29:43 AM »
Dum question, but good chance of seeing a software VT on the A1 then?

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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2004, 01:56:20 AM »
I'm not very familar with the VT software. I'm just wondering how much good this will do us. Isnt' some or most of this software tied to the VT hardware?
Not saying that this is not a good thing. I'm just trying to rationalize what the benefit might be given the age of the software.
 

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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2004, 11:46:23 AM »
I think a lot of the original toaster being h/w was to make the math computations quicker while the Amiga handled the tv synch stuff. Now a lot of that math can be done fast enough in s/w. That is why the Toaster is now 100% s/w with just the interfaces/sockets being h/w.

So I hope someone can port this stuff over to A1. Web broacasting is beginning to get a hold and something like this would be ideal.

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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2004, 03:42:50 PM »
I agree very much.  Port VT to A1!!    :-)

Oh, anyone know if there's a converter that allows me to covert HIQ5 to MPEG2?  Even MPEG4?
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2004, 01:47:16 AM »
Then all those mathmatical computation routines would have to be reworked or added to the currently release sources, right?
 

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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2004, 09:48:11 PM »
so what! who needs it anymore? where was newteck when the europe wanted a pal version?
and what did about it? now the hardware and the software of more sirius stuff is almost free...
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Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2004, 08:59:27 AM »
Valan is mistaken.

 The Toaster/Flyer combo are custom hardware that were designed to augment the elegant OCS/ECS/AGA  chipset.

 It's not like they have special processors per se that do heavy math-- you're thinking like a wintel head: brute force instead of elegant design.  Think of the Amiga T/F as ASICs combined with something akin to a hybrid analog/video/DSP computer.

  Why do you need so much horsepower for the Wintel version of the Toaster?  Because there's no OCS/AGA chipset, and they had to do a lot of the processing via software (since their existing hardware would not have anything to mate with in a wintel box).  Whereas the Amiga version was custom hardware that often did what it did without the need for silly ATI-style solutions.  Think about real sprites and playfields vs. the silly blitting and software solutions required on "modern" equipment.  The overhead is obvious when you see emulations like UAE.  Doing things with custom hardware is almost always better.

 I'd wager there's some IProp on the wintel versions of the Toaster package that steal from the original CBM-Amiga chipset patents.

  This release will help people get the Toaster/Flyer working better on AmigaOS 3.5 and 3.9.

Seriously, NewTek isn't the company we once new.  Gone are the great thinkers who want elegant hardware design.  Now it's all these friggin' "software engineers" who saddle the processor and busy the bus because they're too stupid to figure out a proper solution.