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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 23, 2004, 01:03:18 AM »
Awesome list of vaporware products, my favourite being the RealPC emulator for Mac OSX - after Amiga OS4 ofcourse.

The amusing honesty from the new President of FWB that "not a single line of code" has been written, despite promises that the project was at beta stage was particularly funny.

Finally I love the comment here that AInc should let Wired News know that OS4 is a real product.

Assuming that it was in their interests to do so, and assuming that there is anyone left at AInc that could be bothered to respond to the article, how would you propose they go about proving OS4's existance?

A better solution would be to permanently remove themselves from the list (9th place two years running is a dubious distinction) by actually releasing products within a couple of years of the given release date.

BTW, I think a new animation would be appropriate for the AInc corporate website, maybe a tumbleweed blowing throw the empty desert to reflect the lack of anything substantial, or in fact the lack of any real people, being found at the mythical Amiga headquarters building.
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2004, 10:17:47 AM »
@zacman

You mean "not qualified to state such an opinion in public" ?

Read this: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=1945&forum=3&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0

First comment in that page by Rogue ( do a search on Rogue ). Tells you everything you need to know about that.
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2004, 11:13:43 AM »
AmigaOS seems to be waporware for a long time now. It's difficult not to make laugh users form other plateforms. I'm trying to inform MacUsers but without concrete thing it's very hard.

Amiga OS 4 and serious hardware (with design different from PCs) is needed urgently !
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2004, 12:24:49 PM »
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Then would you agree or not that OS development is best measured in terms of years rather than months?


It depends. I'd rather say "man-years". It always depends on where you start off, and surely we didn't start off at zero.
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2004, 12:34:43 PM »
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Why not check first what you told Ben Yoris what he
is a few months back on ann.lu?


I knew that this would come back at one point.  Yes he was right and I was wrong. I was being over-optimistic, plus I didn't forsee some trouble that would strike in the course of 2003. Don't tell me he spoke out of technical knowledge - he just wanted to contradict a dealer on a french forum.

Why did he say anything? Didn't he step down as Hyperion PR before that? Or did he? Rather confusing, don't you think? "Fired" by Hyperion in spite of having stepped down before?

The Ben Yoris affair was a bit different, though. I've stated this elsewhere, I didn't want to drag it into public again, but you may follow the link that DaveP posted if you wish.
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2004, 01:25:10 PM »
>Why did he say anything? Didn't he step down as
>Hyperion PR before that? Or did he? Rather
>confusing, don't you think? "Fired" by Hyperion in
>spite of having stepped down before?

"Why not state directly that [he is] liar?
At least it would spare you the hassle of trying to say
something that sounds like a defence."
 

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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2004, 02:24:44 PM »
@Rogue

Neither did the Chicago team (you know, Windows 4.0/95?) yet it took them close to 5 years to deliver their update.
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2004, 02:25:37 PM »
Why dont you just read what Rogue posted and make your own mind up rather than trying to trip Rogue into saying whether or not he wants to label someone a liar or not?

Can you honestly say you have never lied?

If not, do you think the label "liar" is appropriate?
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2004, 09:47:12 PM »
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"Why not state directly that [he is] liar?


I already said that he was right and I was wrong.

It's even worse. I don't think you read that posting I did on AW.net, otherwise you would know what happened. And I didn't even tell everything there.

So simply shut up. You don't have any idea what you are talking about.

@DaveP:

Give it up, man. He's not interested in hearing it. It doesn't fit his agenda.
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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2004, 10:20:06 PM »
>I don't think you read that posting I did on AW.net

I read this nice disclaimer which tells a lot about
truth and lies.

>So simply shut up.

Maybe you should ask a moderator to delete your
account again. (Would be the first time in the new
year wouldn't it?)
 

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Re: Wired News: 2003 Vaporware Awards
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2004, 10:22:21 PM »
@Rogue

If you've admitted that he was right and you were wrong, how about you do something unprecedented in the history of this gigantic flamewar?

Appologize to him directly.
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