Hyperion and Metropolis announce AmigaOS 4 version of Gorky 17

[falemagn]

http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?show=1072636985&category=forum&number=301#comment

Likewise, Gorky 17 was ported by Steffen Hauser, and not by us. It is my understanding that payment was never completed due to the bugs in the game that Steffen either couldn't or wouldn't fix. It is also my current understanding that this game has been or is being withdrawn from sale by us due to issues with it and OS X.

[hnl_dk]

To take the rest of the section ...

... I do not know much more on the matter, but I do know I have never had problem obtaining payment for my work from e.p.i.c (sometimes it is delayed, but I always get paid in the end) and I would not be working on porting Divine Divinity for them if I was not happy with working conditions.
...

it looks like that [JC] has developed "something" for EPIC ... He is not from EPIC ... So it is not sure that he has any idea of the real world ... And to my other post ... why do they sell it, if they  

...that this game has been or is being withdrawn from sale...

[falemagn]

it looks like that [JC] has developed "something" for EPIC

In another post he says that he works for e.p.i.c. and, besides, if he knows that Hauser hasn't been fully paid, and if he knows why, why shouldn't he know the rest?

Let Hauser make any counterclaims, if he doesn't, I don't see why I shouldn't believe [JC].

As for gorky being still on sale... dunno, but you should check in the stores as well.

[Argo]

Hooligan:
  I might, then again you could just try the nested view.

[hnl_dk]

The first the best Mac site I could find, and they still sell it ... and as I posted before ... EPIC still sells it ... So I don't believe him!

Everyone can write what they want ... not everything is real!

And about Steffen (and the rest of the Hyperion team) ... Why should they read every post on ann.lu ... and comment on every crap that all the Trolls write (and how should they be able to find all the crap)?

[falemagn]

And about Steffen (and the rest of the Hyperion team) ... Why should they read every post on ann.lu ... and comment on every crap that all the Trolls write (and how should they be able to find all the crap)?

They always find all the crap they want, it seems, so why not also this one? It's also here in this thread now, and they have posted here. They'll surely see it here now, if they don't reply, then it's true.

If you're in doubt, just ask Hauser directly.

[color=FF0000]UPDATE[/color]

S. Hauser sent me a PM telling me his side of the story regarding the payment and why the bugs weren't fixed, but he hasn't addressed the issue of the withdrawal of the game.

[Argo]

falemagn:
You mean this?

Sent: 2003/12/30 10:15:18  
Gorky Thread

Hi!

Comment to your post on that Gorky thread: The points a certain review criticized about the Gorky port where not noticed by the QA at e.p.i.c interactive. They were not noticed by the QA done by the manufacturers of the Windows version. I would still have done a bugfix (actually I did two minor bugfix) after I was notified about it if e.p.i.c would not have stopped paying me.

QA was not done by me. The contract clearly specified this as e.p.i.cs job. Neither was Betatesting done by me. This was also specified as e.p.i.cs job.

I cannot work for free.

If you want to judge how good a coder I am have a look at my Quake 2 port. I have to admit I am really p*ssed off by such remarks. You have also to see that the original source-code of Gorky 17 was in a shape I would "normally" describe as "unportable". It is the least portable game source I ever saw, with the only exception of Alien vs. Predator of course. And Avs.P would have been much more portable even, if it would not have had a D3D Renderer

Actually the contract for the Mac G17-version only happened as I (personally, not Hyperion) was in pretty bad financial shape when that offer for the Mac-port came. If I would have known about the way e.p.i.c pays (or pays not ) their bills I probably wouldn't have done it.

If you feel any need for further comment, please tell them by email to SteffenH@hyperion-entertainment.com. I have no interest in flame wars on a public forum.

Have a nice day.

Steffen

Took awhile but we're getting down to the facts.

[falemagn]

@Argo

You mean this?

I mean what? What's the stuff you quoted? Certainly that's not the message Hauser sent to me (and if it were you'd have done something miserable by posting it here).

In any case, not even there it's addressed the issue of the withdrawal of the game.

[hnl_dk]

falemagn wrote:

In any case, not even there it's addressed the issue of the withdrawal of the game.

Why would you want him to post anything about that???

He is not the one selling it ... it is EPIC ... EPIC is the publisher ... and they hold the license!

If you don't g*t it ... you can write to EPIC and ask them!

[falemagn]

Why would you want him to post anything about that???

I don't want anything from anyone,  did I ever say I want something? I suggest you to cool down and pay attention to what your interlocutor writes.

Hauser is obviously informed of the facts, he should know if the game is being withdrawed or not. Sure, you can ask e.p.i.c. directly: you're obviously free to do it, it doesn't concern me at all.

[hnl_dk]

ok ... this is my last post in this thread ...

You are the one attacking Steffen ... about things you should ask EPIC about ... check your sources before you start flaming

[falemagn]

You are the one attacking Steffen ... about things you should ask EPIC about ... check your sources before you start flaming

I'm attacking who? I hope this is just a bad day for you and that tomorrow the sun will shine again :-) I can assure you, though, that I haven't attacked anyone... I really can't see what can be classified as "attack" in any of my posts.

[Tomas]

*sigh* I miss the good old days when everything was peacefull at a.org.. This site has changed dramatically just over the last 2 years...

[redrumloa]

*sigh* I miss the good old days when everything was peacefull at a.org.. This site has changed dramatically just over the last 2 years...

Changed? No the site has not changed, the community has simply changed with the times.

[Seehund]

Why do the "luminaries" insist on making complete asses of themselves in public all the time?
(That goes for all "sides", in case some campist zealot got confused.)
Now go and sit in the coding-and-running-your-own-company  corner, you-know-who...


@Argo

I might [show what I'm replying to], then again you could just try the nested view.

Maybe I've missed something, but there's no "expanded" nested view, right? Any thread with more than say three posts is practically impossible to read in nested mode, having to click on each single post to read it. This is an example of a BAD thread to try nested mode in...

Another thing on the wish list: a javascript "Quote" button here that quotes the entire preceding post, like in the fora.

[Argo]

Oh, It'll change again... Probably sooner than you think. *sigh*