Genesi now listed as IBM Partner on IBM's site

[CodeSmith]

Sure, but remember we're talking from an amiga perspective here - anything that does not exist right now does not exist.  Sorry, but that's how I've learned to deal with amiga companies.  I know you have a much better track record, but I like to play it safe.  You understand, right? :-)

[zacman]

>I disagree - this is exactly the same certification
>Mai Logic has.

The "certification" itself is worth nothing.

The important thing is what you as a company and
IBM are doing *additionally* to this certification. And
there are some differences in the Genesi case...

[System]

I understand that Amigans are unduly paranoid.

Please.. we are not sh*tting you on this, Genesi is going somewhere, somewhere other than  bankruptcy court, and you can come along for the ride if you like, but you have to leave your doubt behind

[Targhan]

@CodeSmith

I certainly understand the "Show Me" philosophy.  As I'm sure, most of us do.

[CyberViking2000]

I understand that Amigans are unduly paranoid.

Please.. we are not sh*tting you on this, Genesi is going somewhere, somewhere other than bankruptcy court, and you can come along for the ride if you like, but you have to leave your doubt behind

Thanks, but no thanks. I don't like being taken for a ride.  And I don't appreciate being called paranoid, "unduly" or not. :-D

I'll be getting my AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4.0 soon, and set my own course.  ;-)

[Kees]

Genesi is going somewhere, somewhere other than bankruptcy court,

How about you focus on your project without 'joking' about another project ... the world would look so much better if everyone did so.

[System]

Aha!!! Maybe I was talking about Pretory?

[Kees]

I bet that you weren't ..

But i'm glad you agree    :-D

[bbrv]

Hi Kees, normally we would agree with you, but in this case shouldn't the concern be focused on the other project as it was mentioned in the first two posts.  The AmigaOne is mentioned, but the AmigaOne is not listed as Ready for IBM Technology though it would be easy for Mai to add this to the Teron listing.

Frankly, there is absolutely no comparison to what we have done and are doing.  Not to mention the fact the all of our IP and technology rests in ONE company.

R&B  :-)

[System]

So many people are so adamant that Genesi are going to fail, or are lying, or whatever, that they didn't consider that it may be possible for a company to actually do something right in this community, and make that legendary step OUT of the community and do well there too.

I see handfuls of people going around trying to make it look like Bill Buck had a personal hand in Pretory's demise and that he is a cheating lying snake and is going to jail, people who can't let it into their minds for a second that someone other than their chosen brand can make it into the bigtime.

Embrace the goodness

[CodeSmith]

@BBRV: The fact that everything is in one company is IMHO not great. Look at Apple vs wintel: Apple owns everything, they have less than 10% of the market.  In the x86 world (the 90% of the remaining 90%), no-one owns the hardware (that's why it's so cheap!) or the software (Microsoft owns the OS, but they don't have any restrictions on how ppl use it, so unless you care about messing with it, it might as well be open).  To *really* go nuts on the PPC, you need to let go of either hardware (like Bill Gates or Linus) or let go of the software (like Michael Dell).  Hang on to both and you become like Steve Jobs.

@Neko: It's a bit late to start complaining about the level of trolling on amiga sites, don't you think?

[bbrv]

Hi CodeSmith, this depends on your perspective...

A computing platform itself is the foundation to any complete computing environment.  You want to build a STB, workstation, SuperTiVo, a incredible document manager/firewall/make anything happen network box?  You have to have hardware, OS, and application software.

Apple is not an open platform.  We are.  That is why there are over a dozen operating systems running on the Pegasos.  It is a building block to make something else from.  Computers are not an end in themselves, they are a means to an end.  What do you want to do?  :-)

As for MorphOS, it is small and ours.  There are less memory requirements and no license fees to pay, thus less cost.  Cost is an important factor.

We are in the same time zone as you now, but this is it for the day for us!  Happy day after Thanksgiving CodeSmith -- quick question: are you what you ate?!

Gooble Gooble!

R&B  :-)

[CodeSmith]

@bbrv:

I'm not going to tell you how to sell your wares, that would be a tad arrogant on my part :-)  I was just saying what I would do in your shoes, after all this is just a friendly chat, not a board meeting...

Did you just call me a sandwich?  :-D

[Rodney]

@Neko: maybe he was referring to the Articia Sa and the micro-ATX board?

Or the mini-itx AmigaOne... What about the G5? Wasnt out when these comments where made where they?

also, he said PPC, nothing Amiga specific?

[Rodney]

@ bbrv

I think you guys are doing a great job. Keep up the good work. With the OS support and the price of you'r PCs, i think you guys will do very very well Who knows, maybe i'll buy a peg2 one day?

[AmigaMac]

BBRV,

Good stuff... I'm glad to see things are working out for Genesi and also congrats on Genesi-USA opening doors it's in Nevada.  Let's hope we'll see some Pegasos machines widely available in computer/electronics stores in the not too distant future.