Genesi now listed as IBM Partner on IBM's site

[System]

Genesi, along with the rest of their products are now listed in the Ready for IBM Technology directory.

[TallAmigan]

Good news for Genesi..

Nice to be listed on the IBM PPC page...

Is the AmigaOne listing soon to follow???

[HammerD]

The Articia S Chipset is already listed:

Articia S chipset

[Kees]

Confusing ... If the pegasos and morphos (products) are already listed as 'ready for IBM technology' .. why does Genesi (not a product) get listed aswell ?

[CodeSmith]

I'd really like to hear Targhan's thoughts on this, given the editorial he wrote a few months back, when Mai Logic got their own IBM certification.  If you look at the Ready For IBM Technology list of companies, you will notice that both Mai Logic and Marvell (Genesi's choice for the Pegasos 2 chipset) share the same list with Genesi.

I wonder if Targhan would have been as forthright if he knew Genesi was also going down this path...

The bottom line: Their stuff is "acceptable" for some purpose at IBM, they completed paperwork, and they made a grand statement. In other words, the press-release isn't worth reading--it's only value would be to another large company, and they would do much more research than what has gone into this article!

This has shaped up to be nothing more than the work of some spin-doctors on nothing of real imporance!

[Targhan]

Hi! Well, Codesmith hit the nail on the head.  Unfortunately, I already had to "eat shoe" when Genesi first got the Pegasos listed with this thing.  

Now, after listing the Pegasos, MorphOS, PegXLin, BSD, and the entire company through this mess, I can honestly say that the "Ready for IBM Technology" program was created for the singular purpose of annoying ME!

On a more serious note, this little program is created for two purposes.  1. to 'officially' lend the IBM logo to other companies (whooptie friggin' do), and 2. used as a first step to doing some kind of business with IBM.

Since BBRV went through the trouble of listing EVERYTHING through this little program, I have to assume that something is up.  What it is, I have no idea. Who knows, it may be a new past-time, like collecting pokemon cards!  "Gotta catch 'em all, IBM!" Or, they are gearing up towards some business-to-business thing that I'm not privvy to.  (In other words, I have no idea!)

[System]

Well Targhan is right.

Signing up for the IBM logo program is just a lot of formality and self-hype. All it does is list a bunch of companies who offer IBM-based solutions. But that formality is in fact the prerequisite to doing business with IBM - if you didn't make the effort listing in their directory, they don't consider you to exist

It allows by pleasant side-effect all of our resellers and partners to use the IBM PowerPC logo and RFIT logo in reference to our products. It adds a little snap to the websites.

I note Ben Hermans' comment to Targhan's rant of this last year (Feb 2003):

Very nice "research " there but I know for a fact that within the next few months, you will be corrected in a major way.

That's the good thing of having access to inside information not available to the public.

I have seen the future of PPC and I like

I don't see anything coming from Mai, Eyetech or Hyperion either around that date, or since, that validates that smug Belgian grin at the end.

Genesi, however, are producing meat to back up those pretty badges. Stay tuned.

[CodeSmith]

@Targhan

I'm glad to see you're man enough to admit that we all #### up once in a while, and not try some weaselly "evasive maneuvers".  I guess I was still a bit sore at your editorial, and seeing this announcement brought it all back.  My bad :oops:

[CodeSmith]

@Neko: maybe he was referring to the Articia Sa and the micro-ATX board?

[Targhan]

@CodeSmith

Well, if I was perfect, I would be leading some religious movement ;-)

If you want a good laugh, imagine the look on my face when BBRV handed me a MorphOS CD with the RFIT logo printed on it!

[bbrv]

Well, we think there is a difference here...

IBM and IBM Global Business Partners will be selling the Pegasos as a thin client in a total system package. Why the Dell not?! IBM sells services. When they sell an enterprise network to a corporate customer they often continue to “own” the entire system. The customer contracts for the entire package. IBM insures that everything is working and that the latest and greatest is there running as it should. Why should IBM continue to sell a PC when they begin to promote a Linux desktop? First, they throw out Windows (replaced with Linux) and then the Intel-based CPU/PC can be replaced with a PowerPC based system that runs on an IBM CPU. All IBM is doing is connecting the dots from client desktop to enterprise network and ultimately to the "GRID" that IBM now extols (the Matrix is coming!). IBM’s recent investment in Novell and Novell’s acquisition of SuSE is an indication of the coming opportunity and the harbinger of the Genesi revolution. Linux distribution SuSE and the Novell® Nterprise Linux Service package that is being promoted by IBM worldwide run today on the Pegasos. For example, a number of Novell Resellers will start promoting the Pegasos next week.

Pegasos II sales/pre-orders have passed the 1500 unit mark. These are the combined sales based on Reseller, Internet, and institutional/corporate orders. Congratulations to Thomas Knäbel and Gerald Carda. Your years of hard work and dedication are paying off and thanks to you we have the fundamental ingredient required to march forward to our future. Congratulations to the two of you. In 2002 you won the Amiga Award. We can only surmise the accolades you will be awarded when an IT review will be made for 2003.

The MorphOS Developer Connection now has over 400 Registered Developers with Developers that range from over 50 countries. Congratulations to all of you! The Connection has become a progressively useful tool to all those involved because you all contribute and work together to advance the operating system and the platform. Special congratulations to the Core MorphOS Development Team and especially to Ralph Schmidt. We salute you! Thanks also to Felix Schwarz who created the site and moderates it during the start-up period. Felix is moving back to IOSpirit now, but without him we would not have been able to get all this organized. Thanks Felix! As we move ahead, we will be opening more than a dozen new Developer Connection sites with the advent of the Pegasos II. All these “external” developer support sites will be integrated under the Phoenix umbrella and will add new features to make the sites even more integrated and useful.

All said, things are happening and MorphOS will be with every single Pegasos sold to those that are attracted to the open platform and the opportunity to have a Linux Desktop...

...then we will show them MorphOS! :-D

Congratulations to all!

R&B :-)

[CodeSmith]

@bbrv:

I disagree - this is exactly the same certification Mai Logic has.  Trying to make your certification seem somehow better than Mai's is just marketing fluff.

That said, I wish you success, you're currently the best chance we have of bringing the name Amiga back into the spotlight.

[bbrv]

Hi Code, from a strictly administrative point of view you are still right -- this week -- but this relationship will continue to evolve.  :-)

Could we point out to you that what we have is a complete platform: hardware, operating system and soon even an application ALL certified.  By comparison that is very different.  This package is more attractive to a broader market and much more than a single chip.  Can you understand our perspective?  :-)

Thanks for the compliment!

R&B  :-)

[System]

@CodeSmith:

Nobody says we're "certified", we're just "Ready" and "listed". bbrv didn't mention the word "certify" until his last post, you kept inserting it.

Mai were touting a "certification" that they think they earned, which is why Targhan blew a gasket at them. We (Genesi) are not making any brash claims that we did anything besides make our products.

Soon, though, we will have more than just listings on a website to associate us with IBM. That is the BIG difference here.

[CodeSmith]

Sure, but remember we're talking from an amiga perspective here - anything that does not exist right now does not exist.  Sorry, but that's how I've learned to deal with amiga companies.  I know you have a much better track record, but I like to play it safe.  You understand, right? :-)