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Concorde's final commercial flight
« on: October 24, 2003, 05:27:46 PM »
Not Amiga related I know but I feel its important enough to warrent a news article.

Concorde has retired today after nearly 35 years of flight and more that 25 years of passenger service, bringing to an end the era of supersonic passenger transportation. It now seems destined to become a part of history in museums...

It is a sad time, but the inevitable really only came forward a few years. We should celebrate what Concorde was and still is - the only profit making Supersonic Passenger Jet to ever to go into regular revenue service. The Americans or Russians could not even do it - that's how far ahead of its time it was ... and still is!

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2003, 05:29:53 PM »
Non amiga news indeed ... but aproved ...

What i don't undertand is why they never continued design of this special plane ...
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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2003, 05:37:12 PM »
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Non amiga news indeed ... but aproved ...

Although it does have some similarities to the Amiga. Ahead of its time, technically advanced built/designed at at time when a twin tub washer was fantastic!

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What i don't undertand is why they never continued design of this special plane ...

Mainly because air lines wanted cheap to run bulk carriers. AFAIK Boeing dropped plans for a supersonic plane recently in favour of more fuel efficent craft.
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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2003, 05:47:29 PM »
An end of an era.

Was it a rich man's toy or a Businessman’s  invaluable means of transport?

Well this puts supersonic speeds out of reach for the average (rich) person once again.

Who knows how long it will be before its replacement arrives. :-?
 

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2003, 05:48:49 PM »
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The Americans or Russians could not even do it - that's how far ahead of its time it was ... and still is!


Ehm.. what about corncordski, the russian version of this airplane, also supersonic and competing with the concorde when it was first launched? :-?

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2003, 05:57:07 PM »
According to a piece I saw recently the Concorde never showed a profit and was given to the flagship airlines of both countries.

Boing is said to have scrapped its SST program when it became clear that most countries would not allow over flights because of the sonic booms.

I grew up in St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A. For some reason the ground radar signature of the area strongly resembled some prime potential target in the Soviet Union. For about one year in the early 1960's Air Force planes used our metro area as a simulated target range. Several times a day, totally without any warning our house would shake as if a car had run into a corner of it. Then the sonic boom would roll off into the distance like thunder. We should be glad that SST's did not become common.

Perhaps these new designs for trans-sonic (or is it hyper-sonic) craft will fly high enough that sonic booms will not be a major issue.
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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2003, 05:59:06 PM »
Once we walked on the moon, but that's all history now.

Once passengers could board a plane and fly from New York to London in 4 hours, but's that's all history now.

These days advancement is measured in how many polygons per second we can get for our First Person Shooters. That's pretty neat, I guess, but I can't help feeling like we are loosing our vision.

How long will it be before people start coming to believe that supersonic passenger service, like moon landings, was a hoax?
 

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2003, 06:20:25 PM »
@Brian

the "corncordski" never entered commercial flight and the program was cancelled after the crash. And there you have to ask was it really a russian design and not just a concorde... there are a lot of people who think the russians stole the concorde design...
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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2003, 06:32:08 PM »
It's a sad day for innovation when the most advanced commercial product is decommissioned before something is available to supersede it.
 

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2003, 07:00:23 PM »
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What i don't undertand is why they never continued design of this special plane ...


If you ever heard one take off, you'd know why, what a noisy exclusive aircraft.  :-o
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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2003, 07:26:34 PM »
Hi,

I went to see the last landing and take off from Birmingham, a very sad day, things are going backwards.  :-(
 

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2003, 07:31:07 PM »
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FluffyMcDeath wrote:
These days advancement is measured in how many polygons per second we can get for our First Person Shooters. That's pretty neat, I guess, but I can't help feeling like we are loosing our vision.


Yeah, I also get the feeling humanity would be happier emulating the universe on a computer than exploring it.
 

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2003, 07:49:38 PM »
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How long will it be before people start coming to believe that supersonic passenger service, like moon landings, was a hoax?
right after we went to the moon there were idiots who thought it was "fake".

there will always be idiots.
that is a fact.

only people with guts and imagination get things done. everybody else is coasting on their coattails.
that is a fact.

all any person has to do is decide which kind they are.

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2003, 08:16:31 PM »
KennyR I know I would :) , really!. I'm not interested in getting killed in a black hole out in space, much rather have the matrix become reality and go into my own mind for entertainment.
 

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Re: Concorde's final commercial flight
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2003, 08:30:06 PM »
The last of the Great British  engineering Triumphs has past. (and before anyone says anything, yes the french did half the work, but since then they have produced other engineering triumphs, we haven't).

Seems every time we get a good idea we ether get very bad at it (sport) or never follow through on it (Jet Engine - uk actually had a prototype for a supersonic aircraft that was already built 5 years before the US did, never got used. APT, or advanced passinger train, tilted on the corners to help reduce track wear at high speeds and allow higher speeds around said corners - never had the bugs removed and was scrapped, designs were sold to the sweedish, who worked them out, now we're buying tilting trains off of them... That super advanced Catarmeran that was going to take the yaht racing world by storm, but ended up breaking up whilst in one... the list goes on ) and now this...

Its funny and sad, for over 200 years this little island has produced so many of the things that today we take for granted in terms of engineering feets, such as many of todays bridge designs, yet more and more often as time passes we seem to get worse when it actually comes to delivery of the final product.

Its not that we have run out of great engineers either (though in this country it is a dying proffesion) but more and more the people who put these inventions into production flunk and so the idea is lost, only to be sold back to us at a later date for 10 times the original cost...

What is it that we are doing so wrong in this country that causes this to keep happening?

I'll miss concorde, she was always a highlight at airshows that I've been to. The most graceful aircraft ever to take to the sky in my humble opinion. The insides of it though were very tight (I have been aboard the british prototype in an air museum, I'd always wanted to travel in her... guess that will forever be a dream now).
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