First Official Screenshot of AmiGift

[Wilse]

Fannytastic! :pint:

This is brilliant news.
As I've been saying for ages, file sharing software is
one of the things most people I know expect in a computer platform.

This makes it essential IMO.

[Diezman]

This is great news!

Will it work through a firewall?

--Aaron

[csirac_]

Kazaa is evil.

Just wait 'till a surge of Amiga developers start work but then stop when everyone starts sharing them on Kazaa...

My guess is that history will repeat itself.

- Paul

[Wilse]

@Paul:

Well, while there is a risk of that, if we are ever to entice
new users, being known as the *only* platform where you
*can't* share files with your friends is hardly the
best advert, is it?

[itix]

Ok, where is sourcecode for Amiga port???

[csirac_]

@Wilse:

You can justify it all you want... I'm just dissapointed. But not suprised.

I'm just sad that people think the Amiga *needs* this.

In a perfect world, the Amiga platform would attract users out of sheer brilliance; instead, if Amigift is anything to go by,  we're just emulating stuff you can already get on other platforms...  don't get me wrong some of them are necessary, just like running water in your house, but still..

All I'm saying is, people can download kiddie porn, MP3z, and Adobe Photoshop on any old computer. They're hardly going to buy an Amiga to do this. And if they do: they will come to the Amiga expecting to get all their software for free, just like on Wintel. They will pirate software like the animals they are, just like they do in Wintel land. They will not have any concept of community responsibility.

Amiga is doomed, as usual...

- Paul

(perhaps I'm just depressed after watching Donnie Darko... )

[Paul_Gadd]

@csirac_

The users are to blame, not this software.

You will also notice the hypocrites who keep going on about evil Amiga warez will be happy to use this program to download pirate music, appz, films, etc.

[opi]

In a perfect world

There's not sutch thing as perfecto world.

we're just emulating stuff you can already get on other platforms

So, You say we don't need this ,,emulated'' stuff? Like Photoshop-alike programs? MP3 Players? Other Media players? No? Amiga/Pegasos is a computer. It should be capable to run as mutch software as possible. Graphics, music, network software and yes, p2p clients also!

 

They're hardly going to buy an Amiga to do this.

Some of them already HAVE Amiga/Pegasos. It's so bad to give'em new software?

Amiga is doomed, as usual...

 Without software -- yes.

[Valan]

Like Napster this does provide good solid research material for the big boys.
Sad but true the music industry had little interest in the net before Napsters success.

The same will be for movies/TVs. I bet Apple are already looking to add .mpg files to thier iTunes Store. And this will be based upon research gathered by looking at software like Kazaa.

The pirates can be used to help define the market needs then it is up to the industry to compete. If it does not then there is still the loss of sales and the pirates will win since the market is thiers.

The larger companies could even use the pirates to copy and distribute low quality non packaged versions of thier movies. Would it impact on the sale of high quality movie DVDs? For the short term yes but the people who do buy hi quality movies will continue.

This is not an argument to favour piracy but one that looks at it from a marketing POV. It is there and it is real, and basically it is taking money from the public that should belong to the artist. So I say stop whining coz it is just a waste of effort and money and start using them.

Valan

[QuikSanz]

Hi,

OK THEN, how about a client for one of those $0.99 per song jobs. If I could do it here, I would.

Chris

[csirac_]

@Paul_Gadd:

The users are to blame, not this software.

I didn't blame the software.

- Paul

[csirac_]

Some of you are misreading what I meant to say.

I'm talking about the *reaction* you guys had to this software being made available, not that fact that it *is* available. I have nothing against the author, and I'm sure the author doesn't care what I or anyone else thinks anyway (we're all free to port whatever software we want). I'm just dissapointed that people think this software is so important and necessary.

@opi:

So, You say we don't need this ,,emulated'' stuff? Like Photoshop-alike programs? MP3 Players? Other Media players? No? Amiga/Pegasos is a computer. It should be capable to run as mutch software as possible. Graphics, music, network software and yes, p2p clients also!

I'm not upset at the P2P client. I'm upset that, judging by the reactions of the people here, all the other software you mentioned will just get pirated anyway.

It makes me cringe when I see people pirate the Adobe Distiller suite, just so they can print PDFs. What about CutePDF printer? And Office XP when they could use OpenOffice. Or Adobe Photoshop when they could use The Gimp.

Sure, the free alternatives aren't as powerful, but you can afford them. And 90% of people don't even use 10% of the features of the commercial software anyway.

Quote:

    Amiga is doomed, as usual...



Without software -- yes.

It scares me that you think Amiga is doomed without this software. Perhaps you meant software in general. In that case I would agree; but a P2P client can have no possible positive effect on software sales, can it? So in this case, whilst I appreciate the author's efforts in general, I fear that because of the mentality our users have, the Amiga platform could certainly live without it.

- Paul

[opi]

Perhaps you meant software in general.

That's what I meant.

all the other software you mentioned will just get pirated anyway.

That's quite possible, that's why Im sticking to Linux 'till I grab Pegasos. :-)

[JurassicCamper]

A1 owners

apt-get install gift

IIRC its dependent on kdebase3

[fnord]

magnetic: However, Genesi may be interested in a MOS native version. So, if the project leader or programmer could get in touch with us it would be great! Hey, they may get something good out of it!

well, according to its source forge project page it'll be released under GPL and it's written in C, so I guess a MOS-native port shouldn't be all too hard. However, I'm wondering wether they'll be distributing binaries?! AFAIR the giFT project asks not to distribute binaries nor even source archives. The only possibility to get official giFT clients atm is via CVS, as they do want people who test giFT to stay uptodate as clients tend to get incompatible to later versions very fast and old clients sometimes trash the net (Afair). The last time I tried the Fasttrack  support was rather poor. It worked, but you weren't able to share any files in FT (Kazaaaa)  :-(  so imho it's no good idea to use it unless they changed this. But I'm mostly wondering what they'll do about the binaries  :-? Distributing it source-only wouldn't make much sense for amiga users as I suppose most of us (or at least a lot of us) don't have compilers on your system (in difference to most Linux users)

[fnord]

uh, sorry, I wasn't "up to date" on this .... They don't seem to have anything against people distributing binaries any more and there even seem to be releases of giFT available , sorry, sorry, mea culpa, mea culpa maxima!!!!  ;-)