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Offline itix

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2003, 11:50:50 PM »
@elwood:

Btw regarding your review you wrote some time ago... When I read your
review first time I recall you mentioned on-board audio there. Later
on I was going to make a question about it but could not find this
audio from review at all.

I just wonder if my memory is weak and I remember wrong? Or did it
change? :-D
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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2003, 12:19:01 AM »
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It is for that reason that that we have now asked the factory to remove software protection from the ROM so it can be reflashed by earlybird purchasers.


Probably a good thing....

Would not be good to have to wait 6-8 weeks for a reflash...

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2003, 12:38:00 AM »
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The specification I believe is PS/2. Are people trying to use non-PS/2 keyboards, or is there an additional secret specification?


Some keyboard's reset times are so long that the firmware thinks there is nothing connected. If there isn't an ACK from the keyboard controller after a specific time, it will assume that there is no keyboard connected.
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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2003, 01:02:07 AM »
@Elwood:

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I don't see how this comment is related to Eyetech work. It's not a post about AInc.


When Alan Redhouse says this:

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Although we have a close working relationship with MAI, we have materially dictated the board design and specifications


I can make jokes about how they dictated specifications. Alan Redhouse "materially dictating specifcations" is just as bad, if not worse, than Fleecy doing it.

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2003, 01:04:22 AM »
@Seehund:

In Eyetech's defense, there are some relatively dodgy PS/2 keyboards out there, and more intriguingly, some even dodgier KVM boxes (unfortunately I own a cheap 4-way KVM, and they cause havoc with my Pegasos - hold down shift, and tap an arrow key to jump to end of line or whole pages in GoldED or a Shell, and the entire input system goes haywire.. this is a keyboard issue, I'm told, because my KVM is screwing everything up)

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2003, 01:30:44 AM »
@mikeymike

Not at all, as it would be Cheaper and Faster than the 2 PPC options the Amiga Community has now.  And there wouldn't be any supply problems.
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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2003, 01:50:16 AM »
Bobsonsirjonny said,
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A Mercedes is a Volkwagon under the bonnet.
You mean Audi.  Mercedes are Chryslers now, though more vice-versa, as we'd like to hope it goes both ways...
 

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2003, 02:04:20 AM »
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The k/b reset problem only occurs with out of spec keyboards in our experience.

Har.  This is PC hardware we're talking about.  What on earth is "in spec"?  :-)

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But will Gazza have a "next generation Matrox graphics card"?

Hopefully not.  By the time OS4 is realeased, the price of the Parhelia may actually drop below $300!

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Hardware is fast enough now for most people's needs. Bottom line is give it a few years and it'll all blend into one soup of irrelevance  - Its the OS that counts,...

It already has been that way for years.  When I bought my A1200, I tried to convince my family that the Amiga had a better, more effecient architecture, and blah blah blah.  My uncle said that PC's are so fast it doesn't matter.  Ten years later, millions of PCs sell every year.

Yes, hardware is just a means to an end.

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Doesn't that defy the point of running it on x86?

No, just the point of running it on vanilla PC motherboards.  You should see how many x86 machines I use at work that have hardware dongles, not only to make sure you don't run the software on another computer, but also so you can't upgrade the CPU, memory, hard drive, or whatever, without completely breaking the software.  *ALL* upgrades must be official and authorized, or else the machine won't boot.  This is the norm in the workstation market, something most consumers don't ever have the pleasure of experiencing.

Kodak charged us $5,000 to upgrade our dual 450 Mzh Xeon system to dual 800 Mhz processors, without changing ANYTHING else.  That's the world of hardware control, for you.
 

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2003, 02:10:04 AM »
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You mean Audi. Mercedes are Chryslers now, though more vice-versa, as we'd like to hope it goes both ways...

Volkswagen is a HUGE company, and owns several chains of auto labels.  But, that doesn't mean every car sold under their management is a Volkswagen.
 

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2003, 03:20:14 AM »
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A Mercedes is a Volkwagon under the bonnet.


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You mean Audi. Mercedes are Chryslers now, though more vice-versa, as we'd like to hope it goes both ways...


Mercedes are still designed and built completely
independant of anything Chrysler (essentially,
the original merger consisted of the Daimler -
Benz corporation 'buying out' 51% of Chrysler).
The official word was "the product lines
will remain separate."

From a realistic perspective, I imagine that
technologies will be shared between the two
where cost effective...but you will not be
seeing rebadged Chrysler products in your
Mercedes ala Ford/Jaguar. I imagine the closest
example may be the M class, but they aren't
"real" Mercedes anyway...if you want a real
Mercedes utility vehicle buy a G - Wagen or
Unimog. ;)
 

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2003, 03:39:04 AM »
@-D-

Don't go to your local Chrysler dealer then.  They have this little coupe called the CrossFire, it's got a Merc motor under the hood.
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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2003, 04:39:12 AM »
@-D-

Nope,you buy an old MB-Trac  ;-)

(a tractor, no truck that is)
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2003, 06:17:02 AM »
@downix

Pretty cool for Chrysler fans! But you won't see
Chrysler designed drivetrain products in a
Mercedes (thank god!)...

@kronos

LOL! :) M-B tractors are a rarity over here :)
 

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2003, 07:18:36 AM »
If we were to talk about the creation of the world I'm sure there are those eager to expound at length on what shoddy work He did and how it could have been done in six days, or even five. I'm sure we'd hear that a dachshund is really a poodle with shorter hair ... ad infinitum.

There is really no way to convey to these guys how tiresome they are and how unwelcome, trivial, and tedious their speculations are.
 

Offline ElwoodTopic starter

Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2003, 09:00:02 AM »
@ itix:
I don't remember any mention of "onboard audio" myself ! I talked about the sound driver for Debian not yet done.

@Rogue:
Thanks for the information.

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Re: Update from Eyetech (after my review)
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 23, 2003, 03:29:44 PM »
@-D-

It is sacrilidge.  (and actually next year you will find Chrysler motors in Mercedes)

They're merging the two motor lineups together.  Already previously Chrysler-only features (such as polyheads) are showing up in Mercedes motors.
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