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The New Mozilla
« on: October 15, 2003, 05:00:39 PM »
The Mozilla Foundation has released Mozilla 1.5, Mozilla Firebird .7, Mozilla Thunderbird .3, and launched a beta version of a new home page that targets end users in addition to developers. Paid technical support is now available for Mozilla 1.5 and the suite is also now available on CD.

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2003, 05:13:13 PM »
Hmm. Need to remeber to update Firebird when I next time use PC.. :-)
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2003, 05:15:15 PM »
New Firebird, nice!
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2003, 05:30:44 PM »
If anyone chooses to try Mozilla, go for 1.4.1, not 1.5.  A few bugs (which don't appear on all installs though) nthey haven't ironed out yet.
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2003, 05:39:21 PM »
I like how they say "Mean and lean" for Firebird - the packed Windows archive is 6MB in size, not mean or lean. Windows and Linux users wouldn't know mean and lean if it came up and slapped them around with a wet fish. :)
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2003, 05:53:12 PM »
The only fully-featured web browser that weighs in at less than 6MB is Opera, as far as I know.
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2003, 06:08:59 PM »
There are many different ways to take the phrase "full featured". Some accept a browser as full featured if it accepts compatible html. Some aren't happy unless it has full emulation of all IE's bugs and useless additions, password managers, flash, obscure javascript commands, java, CSS, and whatever new badly planned and poorly implemented new tricks the internet pull out to attract visitors.

12MB unextracted for a browser is not slim (not even for 2003), especially considering it's basically a glorified text viewer.
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2003, 06:13:17 PM »
Ok KennyR, stick with Lynx.

Mozilla and derivatives are standards compliant, as is Opera.  Features such as password management are things most people want in a web browser.
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2003, 06:45:07 PM »
The people want a browser that shows sites properly, so maybe it's wrong to blame the browser alone. Probably the blame lies more on Microsoft's shoulders and their IE monopoly.

But still...12MB? Can't someone fit nice features and standards compliency in a package that's really mean and lean?
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 06:50:04 PM »
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But still...12MB? Can't someone fit nice features and standards compliency in a package that's really mean and lean?


Presumably you're now talking about Mozilla rather than Firebird.  Mozilla also includes a HTML editor, mailnews client, and IRC client.

The browser has nice features and standards compliancy.

My only niggle with it is that the other components aren't fully featured.
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2003, 06:55:18 PM »
hrrm and where is amizilla ? ...been awfully quiet!
Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2003, 06:57:21 PM »
So where's Amizilla?

(gah, lempkee beat me to it :ak47: )
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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2003, 07:03:31 PM »
The last email to the amizilla list was nearly a month ago.
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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2003, 07:20:58 PM »
Amizilla's never going to get off the ground until OS 4 is out; there just aren't that many who want to port to 3.x.
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Re: The New Mozilla
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2003, 07:24:36 PM »
james:ermm then the payment info is non valid.

beyond that, i never asked for a 68k version... and to thoose who wanted aga...jeez ok...goodluck.

aga68k should be done after such...or even a 68k..
Whats up with all the hate!