The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated

[DaveP]

Kenny

I am not twisting your words to suit my agenda. You call the remaining Amiga users "dregs", "crazies" and "name followers". Your tone is insulting in the least.

Given two moderators have been here now, and failed to moderate your post ( and the responses to it ) I have to conclude that flamebait against those that are waiting for AOS4 and AmigaONE and who put counter arguments up for Amiga Inc is now acceptable under site policy and say goodbye to Amiga.org.

Now Kees, will you please delete my account. I have as promised stuck around to reconsider but it is exactly this kind of occurance ( and now see KennyR trying to distance himself from his own behaviour ) that leaves a bad taste in my mouth as an Amiga.org reader.

I certainly will not be logging in again.

[iamaboringperson]

I'd say you two settle this is private ...

:roflmao:

NOoooo!! This is entertainment for me! :-D

[mikeymike]

@ KennyR

Aren't you annoyed by the people who keep saying Elvis is alive even though it's obvious he's dead?

Presumably it's your job to tell them they're wrong?  There are countless loonies on the Internet KennyR, but to argue with them as fervently as they do will only get you counted among them on the loony scale.

@ everyone

I'm not implying that those who disagree with this article are loonies.  They're not.

As for lack of moderation on this thread, everyone knew it would be a "hot topic" in more ways than one.  To try and actively moderate it would result in a virtually entirely obliterated comments board, and then people would be pointing fingers that some comments got moderated when they shouldn't and vice versa.  For every comment moderated there would probably be five comments just as bad and worse to replace it.

So, the only way I'm likely to moderate this thread will probably result in less than ten comments in total on it by this evening.

 - edited by mikeymike: ok, so I did do some moderation :-) -

[Paul_Gadd]

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[Radfoo]

As this article is trying to summarize a number of existing facts it would be helpful to include a sources section so people can check the facts out.

It also should be said up-front that amiga.org server is hosted by Genesi, though the writer is trying to be impartial – rather than these facts being added later in the comments section.

I think doing both of the above would help calm future flame wars.

[JurassicCamper]

I'm no legal expert ... but maybe its wise for Amiga Inc. to give up and sell their trademarks to Hyperion and/or Eyetech ...

I'm no legal expert either. But to be honest the more I think about this the more I reacon its a good idea.
Amiga as "name"  gets to carry on with the people who saved it. No licencing costs. Hyperion take want they want from DE and intergrate it into OS4.

[Warface]

This is not news, it´s telling the genesis side of things one more time. Please take time to tell us all the crap genesis did to put Amiga Inc. in bad light.
If the genesis suit against Amiga Inc. sends amiga inc. over the edge and in to bankruptcy,
I will leave the amiga scene for good.

Most of the debt Amiga Inc. owes, they owe in wages to them selfs, the shareholders. Amiga Inc. is just waiting for OS4 to be released to back their effort to raise more money. The company is on hold untill there is a range of products to make the firm look more attractive to investors.

Then please blame themselves, and the shareholders for sending them over the edge (which is still uncertain). The whole Genesi affair is just a drop in the ocean, and they are NOT DEMANDING MONEY, unlike the former Amiga Inc employees, and the current leadership. Genesi has nothing to do with that except that they try to get advantage of the situation (which is pretty much understandable business-wise) - and I repeat they are NOT the CAUSE.

[iamaboringperson]

I think doing both of the above would help calm future flame wars.

I'm sure all the flamers here know all the facts. That's not the problem.
Some people just get too emotional about their computers!

The ignorance expressed above had nothing to do with not knowing/believing the facts IMHO.

[L8-X]

@KennyR

If it's not news, then why is it posted under Miscellaneous news then?

If it's not news (which so many people are stating) then move it to the appropriate forum.

I say to you it was placed on the frontpage to stir up trouble and have yet another kick at Amiga.Inc, no other reason.

Oh the evlis thing, I don't know if you realize this, but A.inc hasn't filed for bankruptcy (yet) and therefore is still "alive" and I hope they continue to live.

[iamaboringperson]

I certainly will not be logging in again.

Goodbye DaveP.... :-o

[Skyraker]

Nice article... which arguably should be in the section marked 'articles'.......

[JurassicCamper]

I say to you it was placed on the frontpage to stir up trouble and have yet another kick at Amiga.Inc, no other reason.

Totally and utterly agree.  

:roll:

[takemehomegrandma]

Man, are you touchy and soft-skinned or what! Amiga.org has forever been quite open for free discussions, open for everyone. Moderation has been - and SHOULD be - only a *last resort* to remove crystal clear cases of abuse! If you can't handle the freedom, then go away! I can recommend a site with Stalin-type "My Way or the High Way" moderation, a site where a coin has only one side, perhaps that should suit you better?

And I hope by God that Amiga.org won't turn into that kind of site.

[JamesR]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked the article. It hurt to write it; honestly, I used to be a champion of AI; now I'm just depressed. Pegasos = eh. I'm not red or blue, not even purple. Now I'm just gray.

[takemehomegrandma]

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Totally and utterly agree.

What? They should write articles and hide them away so no-one can find them?

I think it's funny, no AMUSING, to see how people fall into these kind of discussions. Instead of discussing the contents of the article, you simply starts some meta-discussions about whether it's news or not, if it's posted in the forum or in the news section, and meaningless stuff like that.

I mean, MY GAAWD!  :-o

OK, in the future perhaps the chronicals/articles should be posted in the "sections" section, but nevertheless, when a new article is posted, it's definitely news (perhaps not the contents itself, but the fact that a new article has been released) ...

[System]

Kees , why don´t you erase the article? (as my last post)
Cause the article is in itself a :flame:


to moderate does not mean only the forums but the news too.   :-x