Pagestream for OS4 Announced with Special Offer

[takemehomegrandma]

@ jump2bnaked

That was actually a really good idea! :-)

[lempkee]

@ takemehomegrandma :

i was'nt attacking you i was just pointing out why it doesnt say mos in this news item , and as you allready should know , there is a seperate vote/poll for that system/os, and obviously not enough has regged there yet (unless you got an email from them today).

there is no point in dooing software if a simple thing as a poll wont work...or ?

that was the only thing i was pointing out and as i wrote abit later in the other posts, i am pretty confident that they will support mos if there is a REAL number of people who is interested in buying it and as you might remeber from the poll is that it asked for the non upgrade option aswell as upgrade (the key was needed if you wanted upgrade).

for all means let em do an aros version if they want to but dont expect em to do so unless there is people wanting to buy it.

there has been enough rubbish polls/votes lately and that i think you are pretty aware of , anyway lets wait and see and lets see if grasshopper llc really will suppport a growing market or wait.


anyway they havent posted any info about mos here and the poll's are stll ongoing (for both systems) .

sorry if i attacked you , but i didnt ..it was just that its an Aos4 thread and the word mos had to be pulled into it and that is getting very annoying when os4 aint tolerated in mos threads.

[iamaboringperson]

:lol:

Oh, goody! Now all we need it the OS4 to run it on!

[takemehomegrandma]

i was'nt attacking you i was just pointing out why it doesnt say mos in this news item , and as you allready should know , there is a seperate vote/poll for that system/os, and obviously not enough has regged there yet (unless you got an email from them today).

I got an e-mail with the same info as on the webpage. Regarding the survey, from the text on that page I got the impression that they were going to make the 68k/OS4 PPC anyway, but they would consider making versions for other OS'es as well.

there is no point in dooing software if a simple thing as a poll wont work...or ?

that was the only thing i was pointing out and as i wrote abit later in the other posts, i am pretty confident that they will support mos if there is a REAL number of people who is interested in buying it and as you might remeber from the poll is that it asked for the non upgrade option aswell as upgrade (the key was needed if you wanted upgrade).

I am sure they will make a MorphOS version soon too, not doing so would not be very sensible. I mean how long would it take, now when they got a PPC OS4 version ready? An afternoon? A few days? A week?

However, I am a little puzzled regarding their priority of the order. I mean, OK, currently there couldn't be *that* many Pagestream users on MorphOS (in a SW company's eyes), but at least Grasshopper have a lot more customers running their software on MorphOS than on OS4. But they choose to release an upgrade that noone can use(?), for an operating system that is not available, instead of supporting their current customers that actually are running their software on PPC hardware today. But that is of course not my call ...

there has been enough rubbish polls/votes lately and that i think you are pretty aware of , anyway lets wait and see and lets see if grasshopper llc really will suppport a growing market or wait.

Well, it seems to be their strategy to expand on the niche markets. The competition on the mainstream platforms are probably quite hard.

sorry if i attacked you , but i didnt ..it was just that its an Aos4 thread and the word mos had to be pulled into it and that is getting very annoying when os4 aint tolerated in mos threads.

Oh, OK. I looked at it as a *Pagestream* thread! ;-)

[Warface]

I have received that email as well. And I can confirm that, the OS4 version was announced well before the poll, so it has nothing to do with polls.

And I second to that bashing MorphOS on every opportunity just because you don't like it (even  if some/many users of it act rather annoyingly at times) is rather pointless, it won't make anything better. Even if I can understand how you feel: just try to be better than they are.

[redfox]

Pagestream for OS4 ...

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redfox

[lempkee]

warface said:

And I second to that bashing MorphOS on every opportunity just because you don't like it (even if some/many users of it act rather annoyingly at times) is rather pointless, it won't make anything better. Even if I can understand how you feel: just try to be better than they are.

i agree to this , but getting overrun by people who claim stuff and tries to invade "allready spoken for" software or news items etc) is getting really tedious , if its an mos product and we on the other side screams then its slaughtered down at first glance , that you know as well as i do.

basically i only referred to the actual news item, and the info they gave me about it.

anyway as a final note here would be that i really doubt things will get any better even after os4 is released, there will be the same nitpicking from the crowd as it is now.

both sides is correct but the people might not fit in either of the sides.

the Community , what community?  ah the one that's in constant turmoil.

[PageStream]

I would like to make it clear that the "title of this news" that is "slightly misleading" that you are refering to is from the posting of someone who is not me, nor from our company.

I've already been chewed on by someone else that we where being misleading! (Which happens enough by us poor organic computers. Hard to be precise like a Vulcan or a computer all the time.)

[PageStream]

takemehomegrandma:
You asked why we would support OS4 before MorphOS. Here are a couple reasons off the top of my head:

We support them both already, with the 68k executables :-)

Amiga Inc has chosen to include us in the beforelife of OS4.

Over a year ago, our general platform survey showed a higher interest in OS4 than MorphOS. (BTW, as someone posted, the current survey has nothing to do with this.)

I can run OS4 here without any hardware I don't already have (ie, my only investment is time).

Besides, near as I can tell, more PageStream owners are betatesters of OS4 than MorphOS owners.

I don't have anything against Morph OS personally. In fact, I used to tell people all the time and still believe it, that I don't care what computer you use, just as long as you use PageStream :-)

Anyway, I probably won't be active in this list (for time constrain reasons). Just got pointed to it by another PageStream customer. If anyone has a question, or would like me to make a public reply, just drop me a note at support@grasshopperllc.com if they would please or ask on our support list. Hope this answers your question without invoking some kind of riot! Thanks!
 
Deron Kazmaier

[olegil]

@Kronos:

Hipocracy rules :-)

(MOS 0.4 was a release, but a beta of anything else is obviously not a release, right?)

[Kronos]

@olegil

HÄHHHH ?


A release is a release is a realase  ......

You know, something that is released (aka available for joe public).

That counts for MOS0.1, 0.3, 0.4and 1.x, but neither OS4 nor PS-PPC
are available right now .....

@Pagestream
I'm quite sure you could get a current MOS for CS-PPC/BPPC
under conditions similar to the ones for the OS4-beta.

[DaveP]

@Kronos

Im sure if you put money down Grasshopper would
let you have a copy ( like with getting a Pegasos indeed ).

Members of the general public can do it!

Then you need to get an A1 or a CyberStorm and beg
the Friedens to let you have a copy of the pre-release AOS4 to get it.

Except, you have rather burned bridges with them over the last year so don't be surprised if they say a polite "no".

[NicoPPC]

@lempkee

Where can I find the OS4 SDK ?

By the way, I think it won't be very hard to port PageStream on MorphOS once it's ported on OS4. Moreover, PG works great on MorphOS, and it's very fast !

My opinion is that Grasshopper LLC should support both platform, this way, everyone would be happy. Moreover, it should not be very hard.

Bye

[yoodoo]

PageStream is the perfect (the only?) example of a commercial programme that supports multiple platforms without bias. It is an excellent effort that should be encouraged - so go buy it!

ATM I run PGS4 (68k) on an A1200 as well as via UAE on x86 and the A1. Really looking forward to runnning a PPC native version.

This is where all Amiga-ised factions need to get their act together. It should be a main aim to facilitate parallel development for AOS4/MorphOS/AROS/Amithlon without discriminating against any one particular version. We can't afford to force developers to chose - an ideal situation would be a KDE/Gnome type affair, where you can run software for "the other side" as long as you have a few libraries installed. Reliance on a common set of APIs would be beneficial to all (eg MUI/AHI etc).

[takemehomegrandma]

@ Deron Kazmaier

Thank you for your posts, and thank you for a fine piece of software aswell! :-)

Regarding the number of users on the platforms, it will be interesting to see how the numbers for both of them developes during the coming three months or so ...

Anyway, it's good to see that you stand above the "OS wars" and focus on your own product instead, and that you will bring it to your customers wherever they are.  Pagestream is a great piece of software, and I am hoping for a release of a PPC native MorphOS version in a near future! :-)

Thanks!

[chris]

I would like to make it clear that the "title of this news" that is "slightly misleading" that you are refering to is from the posting of someone who is not me, nor from our company.

That was me, sorry if it has caused problems.  I'll try to be a bit more careful with my titles in future. :oops:

Chris