Pagestream for OS4 Announced with Special Offer

[chris]

I read it as saying that you could purchase it now, but it will continually be improved as OS4 gets closer to release.  Sort of like a beta version with free upgrade to the final version I guess.  Hmm, maybe the article title was misleading, but it seems to be a release, even if it isn't a final release.

@Warface
Anything designed for OS4 should work on AmigaOne and CSPPC versions.

@takemehomegrandma
This is an OS4 compile, so will not work on MorphOS.

Chris

[PulsatingQuasar]

Yes!

This is very good news. We now have atleast a natively running word processor which will ease the pain of not having a thing like OpenOffice.

[mikeymike]

What other file formats (like RTF for example) can PageStream open, does anyone know?

[lempkee]

pagestream developers have the devkit and the knowledge on how and what , like any other developer who want to developer for os4 ,
if this is so damn hard to understand then i think they need to understand what there is in "designing new software for a plattform"

and no there is no mention of a morphos version , it does state clearly in the topic that its OS4 doesnt it?  last i checked that wasnt morphos.

getting tired of people forcing MORPHOS in every thread there is.

mikeymike:pagestream does pdf also...as an example to what it can do...

[Warface]

getting tired of people forcing MORPHOS in every thread there is.

Don't be so harsh, people ask for OS4 version every time something is released for MorphOS as well.

[mikeymike]

@ Warface

I think he's talking about the OS4-bashing / MorphOS advocacy.  Still, the situation is much better than it used to be on Amiga.org IMO.

[CyberViking2000]

Obviously you didn't read it properly, as it clearly states that it is for AmigaOS 4.0 . So unless MorphOS is really AmigaOS 4.0 in disguise, then no, it won't work. Just because it was ported to PPC doesn't mean that it is going to work on any PPC OS.

So in your case, continue enjoying your 68k version.  :-D

[Valan]

I think this is a good indicator of the state of OS4.

Although this could be a ploy to get capital, I don't think so. It does make the AmigaOne look more attractive. We need a similiar offer from Realsoft.

[DaveC]

@mikeymike

Don't let the calm skies fool you.  As soon as the PegasosII -OR- OS4 is released for A1, the excited new users will get beligerant.  That is just the way it is around here. :-)

Personally, I'm just glad to see that PageStream continue on either of the two platforms.

[elendil]

I think it is way stupid for either camp to celebrate because certain software is announced for that platform only.

It would be useful to have as many developers for each platform as possible, and sharing developers would be the way to go.

Imo :-)

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.

[lempkee]

elendi: why?  sales numbers havent exactly exploded on the pegasos side since its release , people are not buying because it aint an mos only product , ie they think they support the enemy etc.

i have never had anything against them who want to release anything for a dual format, the point is this was as it say in the topic Amiga Os4 release/offer , and not an morphos offer .

and to all who has missed why it doesnt say morphos well i think u either should have an email in your box or none at all , if its none then it just show's how little you really wanted it.

(the pagestream poll that was held some time ago, i voted for the one i knew i would buy and now i got the email and i just click'd on the "BUY" option..easy as that)

and now the final thing , do we know why all of this happened ? , sure we do .. lets go back 2 years in the past then we would remeber stuff like Rage hard - mos only , companies going mos only etc and its still going on, so dont come around and say we didnt do it.

anyway i have no reason to belive this will be an amiga only product as its allready linux,mac,pc so all that will matter atm is actual numbers and all who voted will have to pay up, ie it wont just be another anon poll.  or maybe not?

an example of how i think of all of this, i bought knights and merchants and i bought birdie shoot mac version, why? well i am an amiga user and not an pegasos user but i know its worth buying even if i can't use it, but i belive strongly that there will be an amiga version of em, and for the birdie shoot, well thats going into my mol install eventually..

even if there will come an special amiga version of it, sure i wont hesitate on buying it.

the thing is, i dont find it as EVIL WARE! , i buy if its good/worth it and most of all to support the godamn last developers there is in the amiga/pegasos world.

so i personally should advice all to follow that or just start to move on, as it wont last long with the current sales on any of our beloved platforms (and then i aint talking about the hw)

cheers and goodluck.


pps:i know that you are aware of that i am an developer , and this is not on behalf of the company ...its my humble opinon!.
also, i aint saying buy aos4 pagestream f you are an mos user, incase if thats what i led u to belive..

[Brian Hoskins]

I'm a regular user of Pagestream, and while it does have it's annoying quirks, it's generally a very good program and is definately very powerful if you're willing to spend time getting to know it

The trouble is, Pagestream always feels very constrained on he 68K processor, like it desperately needs to escape.  Large complex pages become horridly slow, and I don't think that's a critisism that can be made of Pagestream itself, I think it's just too powerful a program for our aged 68K machines.  I always wished they would release a WOS version...

Anyway, it's clear to me that in order to realistically continue Pagestream on the Amiga platform this support was desperately needed.  Thanks GrasshopperLLC - I will continue to support your program

[lempkee]

brian: well i once tried it on a 040 25 and thats when i felt it was quirky and annoyingly slow, but since i have been using it with 060 and all the plugs and views was ppc, well i havent noticed it beeing slow , though i agree you with an ppc version but still 060 and 040 are very diffrent in how they work and how fast it actually is , infact standard a1200(with no fastmem) to 030 (8mb) jump was by no means as clear and suprising as from 030 to 060!
and i guess you are aware of that 040 needs special exe + optimization to be able to be faster than a 030 50mzh, though 040 40mzh is a diff story.

oh well..bring it on! i am certainly looking forward to this powerapp!

cheers

[takemehomegrandma]

@ lempkee et al

I don't really understand the rude tone here, I only asked some really simple questions! You see, I am a registered Pagestream user, and I like the program very much. However, I only use it on my Pegasos/MorphOS since my old A1200 is too outdated in both features and performance. It's definitely usable as 68k, but at least partial PPC native code would be nice, hence my questions (what the major differences are there from the 68k version for the OS3.x API, and if the PPC OS4 version runs on Pegasos/MorphOS aswell).

Since they will still be developing the 68k version in the future too, with the OS3.x API, my guess is that the differences won't be too big. Because of convenience reasons if nothing else. The hardest (and the most important) work should be to port it to PPC, and now that seems to be done.

Well, I know that we are some users that are very happy with both Grasshopper and the Pagestream software on Pegasos/MorphOS. Personally I know 5 people among my closer friends (me included) that would easily be buying a $40 PPC upgrade and use it *today*. But of course we would want to know if we can use it before we place our orders. I only requested some more information! Quite fair, huh?

However, I am quite confident in that Grasshopper will support us in the future the way we have supported them, and that they will release a MorphOS PPC version very soon. It should be easy, now when the hardes parts are done. When AWeb was released as open source, it was up and running in a PPC native MorphOS version in a matter of hours (a "first try" version, in a matter of days in a stable version).

Pagestream allready works on MorphOS, and now there is PPC too, just put those pieces together and a lot of current and future customers will be happy!
:-)

[jump2bnaked]

What other file formats ( like RTF for example ) can PageStream open, does anyone know ?

Although being able to read other file formats is a  welcome, personaly i don't think the type of file it can read or write which should be compatible to somone elses software is the most important part.            
               I think the most important part is that they give away a copy of the pc, mac and other systems of pagestream. This version should only have the ability to load pagestram files then use the printer driver of that system.
              One should not be able to work with it. I mean the menues should be ghosted. This will give DTP houses that know nothing about pagestream to realize the other alternatives.
  I have experienced this several times as i have been told to go and get my document converted to ps " PostScript ", so that they can read the file, before they can make a proof print.
  The result of this is almost always a washed out print, espcially when one has coloured images in the documentation. Fonts that don't fit, images scaled in  wrong proportions. Do i need to say more?

[takemehomegrandma]

@ jump2bnaked

That was actually a really good idea! :-)