Merlancia Industries Announces the MCC 1000 and the MCC 1200

[downix]

As a side-note, the dropping of this site-fued is turning out great, as scoops on one site are picked up on the others.

Thanks one and all for this.

[redfox]

:roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
This is the best hoax yet!
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redfox

[Ilwrath]

At this point it is unclear if an OS will be delivered with these new computers.

At this point, I'd say it's unclear if the COMPUTERS would be deilvered..... but some call me skeptical.  ;-)

[Kronos]

@weirdami

I would agree with you, if it was any other company than Merlancia (o.k. AInc too  ;-) ),
but as it stand, we are talking about an completly "unclear" product, by a
company only known for hoaxes and fooling partners (in cases where those
weren't just invented) :-P

[fnord]

so bbrv said they don't cooperate with Merlancia, don't have any
partnership with them etc. (as it was stated on M.'s site recently).
But M. could still act as a simple reseller for the Peg II and put
them in those boxes, couldn't they?

[olegil]

Theoretically, Merlancia could sell the Pegasos motherboard bundled with a special version of AmigaOS (would mean there would have to BE such a thing, but given some time it's at least theoretically possible).

Practically:
I wouldn't trust Merlancia any further than I can throw a lorry. Which isn't TOO far, I don't mind admitting.

But if it means Merlancia are trying to get their #### together I am at least willing to give them a chance. The case design is ok, and a unified look is sometimes good for recognition. Think IBM, HP, Apple and you'll know what I mean. The AmigaOne is currently lacking this, unfortunately.

Actually, I would rather have a desktop case with AOne on the front, styled after the A3000 or A4000.

[Coder]

Hi,

I have no doubt they will come out with those machines. As for the OS, tricky. I do not think OS4 will be running on it. Don't think Eyetech is keen on others to come out with certified OS4 hardware. If you read the next:

"Don't be fooled by our competitors' products. The Amiga MCC series products are fully retail packaged multimedia computers and servers, not just bare logic boards like our competition offers. Don't settle for a system that you have to piece together with parts that you have to purchase after the fact, or spend frustrating hours setting up. The MCC is ready to use right out of the box with a variety of specialized platforms available including a general use desktop, a multimedia/video composing station, and advanced servers."

So wich OS? I think Linux for the x86 machine. Maybe BeOS like OS's. But even from reading the above about the competitors', I would say that on the PPC machine we will have MorphOS. Pretty sure about that, ;-) And if not, Bill: jump on that wagon there.

Coder

[olegil]

@alx:

To me, it sounds like a standard x86 or slightly custom PPC board in a nice case

The x86 is probably standard, but the PPC sounds like the Pegasos. Bill Buck commented recently that someone else would buy Pegasos boards and license AmigaOS4, I've speculated that this would be Merlancia for over a year now...

I still don't _trust_ Merlancia, but it would  make sense to license OS4 for Pegasos and sell it as the MCC.

A different question is if there's any Pegasi left or if we're talking Peg2.

[BADHead]

this should be added to the current poll  :-P
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[olegil]

@Coder:
I don't think Eyetech has any say in the matter. If someone wants to license OS4 for alternative hardware Hyperion/Amiga Inc are NOT in a position to turn them down without some real consideration.

But if the hardware is a Peg, Hyperion WOULD need some kind of copy protection to ensure that only Amiga branded machines (sold with OS4) will run OS4. Otherwise you're looking at a huge piracy potential which Hyperion are NOT willing to accept. But all this is speculation, no reason to go off the wall until it's been confirmed/denied officially :-)

(OS4 on the Peg with a proper licence kinda WOULD prick a hole in the balloon of a certain petitioning Swede, though).

[Coder]

Hi,

I can understand that some companies would not be happy if OS4 would run on "not certified" hardware. I mean, those companies pay Amiga so that OS4 runs on their hardware and there you have some other hardware were it runs on. Not right.

But like I said, I am pretty much sure that the Amiga MCC 1200 will have MorphOS to run.

@olegil

I don't think Eyetech has any say in the matter.

I agree. But would be nice for them to be the only one. :-)

Coder

[unclecurio]

As a side-note, the dropping of this site-fued is turning out great, as scoops on one site are picked up on the others

Yep  :-)  That's how it should be.

[Warface]

Despite all this, I like the case design, and I'd even buy one. I mean the case, not the systems. Are the cases available separately?

[SilvrDrgn]

From Merlancia ... I'll believe it when I see it.  Until then, no way.

[AmiDelf]

www.amigaworld.org have asked Merlancia some questions and so on. Read on if you want to. Is this a hoax, weve asked about that to.

I am not against theme or love them, just that I wanted to know if there is any activity at all.

Well, I hope it gives something.

Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org

[Seehund]

@Ole-Egil:

I don't think Eyetech has any say in the matter.

They shouldn't, but some things really make you wonder...

(OS4 on the Peg with a proper licence kinda WOULD prick a hole in the balloon of a certain petitioning Swede, though).

How so?
(I assume you're referring to me, or any of the other Swedes, who are petitioning AInc on this matter.)

I mean, what has changed?
Has the compulsory trademark licensing + OS bundling + hw-vendor supplied dongle requirements been revoked? If that had happened, it'd be a GOOD thing, and it'd show that AInc listened to its market. No popped balloons in that case, maybe popped champagne bottles. But this hasn't happened.


If anything, this farce serves to yet again illustrate how absolutely worthless and counterproductive this supposed "customer protection" and "quality/compatibility assurance" nonsense really is.

It would mean that the freakshow ran by that kid Ryan, Merlancia(!!!), arguably the company with the worst track record (vapour-ware wise, legally, and so on...) in the silly former Amiga market, is considered Good Enough for us stupid customers by AInc, that this parody of a company (Merlancia, not Ainc this time) should be trusted to wield the "Amiga" trademark, that their vaporware product has passed through AInc's strict quality assurance procedure, that AmigaOS4 has been found to run flawlessly on the Pegasos mobo that this vapourbox allegedly would contain...

"From the top of the company to the bottom, we are committed to championing the cause of quality for the consumer and will ensure that substandard products do not make it into the Amiga market where they can do irreparable damage to the reputation of the platform. Licencees will have to develop and resource a full customer solution, with guarantees on product quality, delivery, and most important of all post sales support, with firm commitments to repair, replacement and turnaround, elements that have blighted the platform over the last five years."

In light of what we all have seen, all of that is nothing but a sick joke.

Let's see what reputation the "Amiga" trademark has gained with AInc's trademark licensing.
AmigaDE: It's been three years, and it does not yet exist. It hasn't been demoed. No product has ever ran it. The company behind the licensed technology has said it can't be used to build what AInc announced.
AAPlayer/AACE/whatever: A whole lot of former "partners" with changed minds. Two sets of games from third parties that only run on embedded Windows versions, and that mostly are of worse quality than the Java games that people download for free.
AmigaOS: First discontinued ("it's dead, DE is the future"), then luckily picked up by a third party. When it's released people won't be allowed to buy it, unless they at the same time buy overpriced hardware from a restricted subset of a third party market, for no other reason than to artificially create a source of income from trademark licenses.
"AmigaOne 1200": Discontinued vapourware, while promised to be "on schedule and r...". Oh well. You all know Dammy's favourite.
Teron CX/"AmigaOne SE": Flawed hardware and firmware, severely overpriced by the licensee, never ran AmigaOS, never tested by AInc, was never meant to be a consumer product, discontinued right under the nose of the licensee.

The "Amiga" trademark has so far been haphazardly slapped on ONE functional, useful and released third party product - The Teron PX ("AmigaOne XE"). But AmigaOS still doesn't run on it (yet it's passed AInc's compatibility tests), nobody at AInc has even seen a board (yet it's passed their quality certification, even though it didn't even have Gerald Carda's "wire-fix" at the time it was first sold as an "AmigaOne"), it's never been sold with AmigaOS nor a firmware dongle as required, there are obvious delivery problems, it costs $300 more from the licensee than what another more reputable dealer was going to charge before they changed their minds during their hardware testing, the licensee has no control over the future of the product, and customer support seems to mean "there's a Debian manual with the latest boards, and haven't you been signed up to that customer-created Yahoo mailinglist yet?".


And at the same time, another license applicant (apparently very capable, experienced and with a good track record) has been turned down or plain ignored, while judging by this story Merlancia (a clown operation that most sane people wouldn't trust to supervise the drying process of a newly painted wall) would have gotten a license!? I know it's been said that Merlancia has borrowed money to AInc, but COME ON!

If you'd want to buy AmigaOS for a Pegasos(II), you'd not be allowed to buy your hardware anywhere but from Merlancia[/i]! How wonderful...

Oh yeah, I feel great being protected like this!