Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[WalkernyRanger]

@Dammy

Damn it Downix! You know better to use logic against irrational dislikes based on emotional tendencies! Jeez, what is this world coming to!

Please don't get the wrong idea.  I do not care what computer, OS, or anything else people like or want.  There is nothing emotional or irrational about my decisions or statements.  I have looked into MorphOS, contemplated purchasing a Pegasus machine and decided against it.  I do not have any bad feelings for any MorphOS, Windows, or Mac user.  I am typing this on a Windows machine now.  While I do consider myself an Amiga zealot, it is because I have used other systems and would prefer to have the latest Amiga system on my desk.  Since my A3000 is a little slow for my tatses now I use my Windows machine or WinUAE for most things.  I will buy an AmigaOne when available.

[mdwh2]

@WalkernyRanger

Windows XP doesn't run Amiga software "transparentely" (ie, from the user's point of view it's indistinguishable in its behaviour to native software). Also there are other points - eg, I didn't think that Windows' API was very compatible with the Amiga's.

So I don't see how the situation is even vaguely analagous. Also, there are Windows related posts here, but ones that are still related to the Amiga (WinUAE being the most obvious example).

"except we can't seem to discuss anything AMIGA, without someone suggesting we buy a Pegasus or try MorphOS."

Yep, I agree here - though just to add that it happens the other way round (and with other things too, like Amithlon), and it's annoying whenever it happens.

[WalkernyRanger]

@Downix

And what is so not-Amiga about MorphOS? Or Draco? How about the Access? Amithlon anyone?

How is MorphOS an Amiga?

[WalkernyRanger]

@mdwh2

My PC runs OS3.9 beautifully, in fact better than my A3000 ever did.  And while I currently have my set up load into XP and I manually launch winuae, it would not be difficult to have my system automatically load winuae at startup.  I don't own Amithlon yet, but as I understand it will boot a PC directly into AmigaOS.  I really don't see the difference except that on a PC I am using a real Amiga OS and not an OS that also runs Amiga programs.

[mdwh2]

@WalkernyRanger

You don't have to convince me of the benefits - I'm running WinUAE on Windows 2000 here. Nowhere have I suggested that posts about WinUAE, Amithlon etc shouldn't be allowed here. But your description of a system which runs WinUAE automatically most certainly does not fulfill what I said about being indistinguishable from native (ie, x86 Windows) software.

WinUAE, Amithlon, AROS, MorphOS, AmigaOS are all systems that allow running of Amiga software, through various different methods (be it emulating AmigaOS as a whole directly, or providing a compatible API and emulating the programs).

Windows does none of this. It can't even be claimed to be Amiga-like in its behaviour (which, AIUI, MorphOS can).

If the only way MorphOS could be made to have any Amiga-like relevance was to install an additional software, and the Amiga-stuff only ran within this software environment, then you would have a point, and I'd agree that Windows/MorphOS posts woudl only be on-topic here if it was with respect to this additional software. But this isn't the case.

[downix]

@WalkernyRanger

It runs Amiga software natively.  It was to be the next-gen AmigaOS till an agreement could not be reached between Thendic (now Genesi) and Amiga, Inc.  From a design standpoint, it is everything a next-generation Amiga's operating system should be to win back customers that have left for greener pastures.  

It may lack the name, but it has the spirit.

(not slighting AmigaOS 4.0 here, mind you.  I'm just answering what makes MorphOS an Amiga to me)

[Hammer]

And what is so not-Amiga about MorphOS? Or Draco? How about the Access? Amithlon anyone?

One shouldn’t compare Draco with MorphOS. The Draco is just the hardware with the licensed AmigaOS 3.x operating system. A valid comparison with Draco is the Pegy (whatever number) hardware with a licensed AmigaOS (whatever number) operating system (speculative scenario**) .

I don’t think users of MS Windows will refer IBM's OS/2 Warp as “MS Windows” (setting POV @1995).