Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[downix]

@Hammer

Indeed, and the Draco is an example of where we can go and still remain the same.  It lacked the chipset, but held the idea.

[Hammer]

Indeed, and the Draco is an example of where we can go and still remain the same. It lacked the chipset, but held the idea.

It may not have the PAD/ECS/AGA chipsets but the Draco has a valid AmigaOS 3.x licence. Intangible assurance can be a big thing for the end users.

Note that; 'bastardising' a standard may not be the liking of the licensor and which may result in the refusal of giving out the licence to the potential licensee.

The problem with AInc’s vs Genesi (in relation AmigaDE) is the lack of public disclosure(in my POV) in regards to “the terms” in the contract (I assume a contract exist between the two entities). (PS; it’s their right keep those terms in private)…

How could Genesi obtain the Amiga and the Amiga logo IF it's held in AMIGA Development LLC? (I assumed "AMIGA Development LLC" and "Amiga Inc" to be separate legal entities.)

[downix]

@Hammer

Depends on which Amiga trademark and logo, I would guess.  But then, how would Hyperion have gotten it in that case either.

[dammy]

Poster: lempkee Date: 2003/8/21 13:31:42

dammy: yes/no ...

the whole thing is , sure DE should be on every plattform around, thats what it was intended for (tao).

Well, we can agree that the object for Amiga Inc is to get DEad to everything possible, that includes the Pegasos.  Sales = profit.

but as we know that never happened , but as soon
as they have DE (IF) on pegasos , genesi will yet again USE the amiga name and that aint always good, for many reasons.

If you step away from the emotional kneejerk reaction of Genesi being (which they are) a DEad license holder, and look at it with a business mind, it's a good thing.  If you can hold your nose while M$ defiles the Amiga name buy pushing Amiga DEad (which REALLY grates on my nerves), you should be welcoming a fellow Amiga Community member of Genesi to push sales.  Even better if Amiga Inc can get royalities off every Peg produced.  MIght suck for EyeTech, but they could even rebadge a pegasus so they are not out of the picture entirely.  But that isn't Amiga Inc's concern, profit and survival is.  

If I was Bill M at this moment and Bill B wanted to deal and buy say, 250,000 USD worth WB disks and would put DEad on every Peg2 and all follow on Peg, I'd buy the man alot of beers regardless on how much I loath someone.    That means payoff of old employees and some cash left over for cellphone bills, and maybe a morgage payment or two.  If the two million comes from M$ in a few months and I have royalities flowing in from Genesi, it's party time.

The point I'm trying to make with the above, real business men deal with eachother if it's to benefit their companies, regardless of their personal dislikes.  Unfortunetly, it appears that Bill McEwen is once again showing that a good and rational business, he ain't.

Dammy

[K]

@Kees

I find funny that my post is called trolling....yet I was responding in the exact same manner as Paul_Gadd
's post.  Doesn't get better than this

Good job.

[Paul_Gadd]

My post what not trolling at all unless pointing you to a Amiga Inc fan site is trolling, so you want a Amiga biased website? then go to Amigaworld..net which will suit you perfectly.

Funny how you people keep attacking this site but continue to use it, if you do not like this site then dont visit it, the way you guys carry on as if someone is putting a gun to your head or something.

[Kees]

@k

All i can say is that the moderators can't see everything that is beeing posted .. Amiga.org is a pretty big website with alot of posts coming in every minute.

We are doing our best, and thats all we can do. Don't forget that we are all doing this for free ...

Regarding Paul his comments, i do recall editing one of his comments yesterday.

Next time when you disagree with one of the moderators dicisions feel free to mail me or one of the other staff members.

-k

Edit - Check out our posting guidelines

[redrumloa]

Regarding Paul his comments, i do recall editing one of his comments yesterday.

I did too. If you would have read the entire thread you would have seen my obvious edit. Anyone who steps over the line gets edited. Paul isn't happy getting edited, but he doesn't blame the site for bias when he is.

[Terminills]

@redrumloa

[edit]
lol sorry didn't mean that to sound harsh... Just that he speaks with alot of profanity at times..
[/edit]
 
As far as bias goes all sites are biased.  If you don't like the bias of this one There are plenty of other sites to cater to your personal bias.  :-D

[K]

@red

I don't have a problem getting edited.

I have a problem being called a troll when I was responding to a comment above that had not yet been edited.

@Kees

Works both ways man....you want to call me a troll in the forum...I'll tell it how I see it in the forum.  You want to email me and tell me what the problem is...you'll get a lot better reaction from me.

k.

[Kees]

@ k

Last time i checked, it was us (the Amiga.org staff) who are making the decisions on this website.

One rule is:

"No trolling
Don't make posts that are inflammatory just to get people angry."

This rule aplied here ...

If you don't agree with the decision i made, you can simple mail me or another staffmember and complain about it.

These are the rules on this website ... you can accept that and live by it ... or leave.

Again, read our posting guidelines

[WalkernyRanger]

@KennyR and Mdwh2

I understand that the MorphOS crowd is mostly made up of current and former Amiga users.  And that MorphOS runs Amiga software under 68k emulation.  I also have a Win XP machine that runs Amiga software under emulation.  Do you want me to continually come to Amiga sites and "evangelize" you on the benefits of Win XP! :-)  I have nothing against Pegasus, MorphOS, or Genesi, except we can't seem to discuss anything AMIGA, without someone suggesting we buy a Pegasus or try MorphOS.  There was a post I saw a few days ago from someone interested in coming back to the Amiga.  He asked some questions about the Amiga.  What were the first responses to him?  You should look into MorphOS and buy a Pegasus!  Come on at least anwser his questions about the Amiga before trying to convert him to dark side!  :-)

There is no problem with carrying news items that pertain to Amiga users.  However most people come here to learn more about Amiga computers and OS, and less for systems that emulate them.  

It is OK to be an Amiga fanboy, on an Amiga fan site isn't it?

[downix]

@Walkernyranger

And what is so not-Amiga about MorphOS?  Or Draco?  How about the Access?  Amithlon anyone?

[dammy]

Poster: downix Date: 2003/8/22 13:53:39

And what is so not-Amiga about MorphOS? Or Draco? How about the Access? Amithlon anyone?

Damn it Downix!  You know better to use logic against irrational dislikes based on emotional tendencies!  Jeez, what is this world coming to!  

Dammy. :-o

[K]

@Kees

Are you reading my posts backwards and coming up with a new meaning?

My problem was  an Infammitory remark was directed at me in a post...and edited with no remark.  I responded back...mine was edited with a troll remark.

The easy way would be to just walk away from this "Amiga Community" site because I don't agree. However...this will not happen....sorry..    
People here can continue on talking about how Genesi is  great...And I will continue to tell them they aren't.  

So suck it up everyone...cause 5 years of viewing....is coming to an end. :-D

k.

[WalkernyRanger]

@Dammy

Damn it Downix! You know better to use logic against irrational dislikes based on emotional tendencies! Jeez, what is this world coming to!

Please don't get the wrong idea.  I do not care what computer, OS, or anything else people like or want.  There is nothing emotional or irrational about my decisions or statements.  I have looked into MorphOS, contemplated purchasing a Pegasus machine and decided against it.  I do not have any bad feelings for any MorphOS, Windows, or Mac user.  I am typing this on a Windows machine now.  While I do consider myself an Amiga zealot, it is because I have used other systems and would prefer to have the latest Amiga system on my desk.  Since my A3000 is a little slow for my tatses now I use my Windows machine or WinUAE for most things.  I will buy an AmigaOne when available.