Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[JoannaK]

K: Looks like some old troll has found a new name to himself.

Moderators.. Would it not be time to close this thread.. afterall
there is allmost 200 messages and quite plenty of them are waste of
net net bandwidth..

if there is a need to ths discussion then perhaos a new thread???

[meerschaum]

@K

what your saying would be alright if Amiga.inc where an actual company that had been around since this site has been around...but this site was around long before them. They may own the trademark but this wasnt a squatter job, this site they have no claim on... this site has been a community portal for ages...and with any luck it will be for ages...

If the governments/etc let flash in the pan companies have the right to

1:find successful website

2:register name and spend 500 getting .inc with it

3:go take website

things would not be good... wich is why this site still stands...this site is for the 'AMIGA COMMUNITY" not for 'Amiga.inc' ... get that through your head... its been here before Amiga.inc it'll be here after...and if Amiga.inc wanted this site they could just buy it...after all as the Amiga.inc supports say 'things are on schedule and rockin' ...what was the going rate for this site? 20K?...thats a drop in the bucket to a  'rockin' company...

[mdwh2]

@K

Also, as a counter example, http://www.mac.org/ doesn't redirect to any official Apple site.

[Bobsonsirjonny]

Everyone - just stop it. Please. Its gonna be going round in circles before long.

[Merko]

The whole idea of the .org root domain is that it's for organisations,
not companies, right?

IMO it's sad that companies are allowed to take over, and that they
sometimes threaten fans who are becoming too independent with
scare-stories to make them believe that you can't even talk about
product X without breaking some "copyright" about the X trademark.
Mind you, I'm not really talking about Amiga here, but in general.

[mdwh2]

Jules wrote:

"It's been a very long time since I installed 3.9, but doesn't the EULA appear during instalion time?"

I'm not sure - I ended up doing a manual install, so I never clicked "Okay" to anything, let alone agreed;)

(Though no doubt, the EULA-police will insist I agreed simply by reading it in the instruction manual).

@HyperionMP

Well yes, EULAs might not be illegal (I don't think anyone's suggesting Amiga Inc be taken to court because they had a EULA;), but the question is, have they been upheld anywhere? (And if so, in what form). Otherwise, it's all a matter of speculation.

[K]

@JoannaK

I don't troll...I just don't post because...seriously...as you can tell...it never gets anywhere.

@meerschaum(wayne)

'AMIGA COMMUNITY" not for 'Amiga.inc' ... get that through your head... "

whatever you say....If thats how you want to justify your site...fine.  Maybe you should post "borrowed" MP3 on this site as well...

What this site is doing is taking a registered trademark  'Amiga' in their DNS.  Using the 'I was hear first' calling it an "Amiga Community" then advertising an OS/hardware that isn't even Amiga Approved....but in Direct competion with Amiga.  Ya...and I need to get it through my head?  

All one has to do is pretend that they are the CEO of Amiga for one day and ask yourself if this website is helping the "Amiga" and the "Amiga Community".  Oh let me guess the next phrase you are going to tell me is that this website is helping the current situation?!  LOL

Sorry for those that think that I may be trolling...but everyone has a breaking point.

k

[Paul_Gadd]

Yeah right, Amiga Inc only site more like.

[JoannaK]

K: Ok. I'm sorry for my hasty words.

It just happens time to time that when someonejumps in with brand new
account it's later found out to be someone allready well known person.

I was wat too hasty to jump on this.

[K]

LOL

Edit by Kees - trolling

k.

[downix]

@K

Your attempt to divide will only cause grief, and shrink an already diminished community.  Do you want half, if not more, of the community gone?  All for what?

[K]

If you call this a community...  What good is it doing right now?  Can you say that the current situation is good?

[Hammer]

If Amiga Inc was a real company, they would be gladly holding their hands out for royalities from Genesi.

I recall, Apple is a ‘real business’.   Note that Apple revoked/not renewed most of MacOS licenses (for use in MacOS PC clones). A licensor has right to control their property(contractual obligations not withstanding).

I wonder if "contract" between Amiga Inc and Genesi is a “voidable contract”…

Since Amiga Inc is a farce, they can do without additional revenue streams, right?

It's Amiga Inc’s call for assessing their own financial position.

[Hammer]

Oh please, not that old one again! It doesn't even make sense, considering that the "real Amiga" is a TeronCX with a dongle! Ever heard the phrase, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?"

Note that Draco** (licensed AmigaOS compatible solution) doesn’t have PAD/ECS/AGA chipsets...
**68K based PC with VESA style graphics chipset.

[downix]

@K

It is doing a lot of good, actually.  It is growing, evolving, changing into something stronger than the force that originated it.  Yes, it is growing, new members drift back in, old geeks with faded memories as well as new kids with high hopes and stars in their eyes.  They come for Amithlon, MorphOS, AmigaForever, AROS, AmigaOS 4 and even Amiga, Inc's own AmigaDE.  

I am legion, for we are many.

[downix]

@Hammer

Indeed, and the Draco is an example of where we can go and still remain the same.  It lacked the chipset, but held the idea.