Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[Kees]

Bill McEwen comments on the Thendic-Amiga litigation and reminds AmigaOS users of the end-user licensing agreement.

"It has come to our attention that Mr. Bill Buck has made several statements about the on-going litigation between our firms. He has stated that he has won the case, and the we have agreed to port AmigaDE to Pegasos, as well as making certain claims that he has rights to our logos and trademarks."

Read more at Amiga.com ...

[Kees]

There will be one warning .. and thats this one ..

NO FLAMING and NO TROLLING !

[JoannaK]

Ok. have to admit this was not exactly response I was hoping for
but. At least it shows one part of the story.

Expect to hear more sometime soon. I have some itch this ain't all
over yet.

[redrumloa]

Expect a fight, expect a BIG fight.

I have coments I'd like to add to this, but I won't fuel this fire. It has enough ignition already :-x

[downix]

-edit-

Ya know, I don't want a trollfest, so I won't give them ammunition.  Consider my comments retracted for the sake of peace.

[bloodline]

"It has come to our attention that Mr. Bill Buck has made several statements about the on-going litigation between our firms. He has stated that he has won the case, and the we have agreed to port AmigaDE to Pegasos, as well as making certain claims that he has rights to our logos and trademarks."

May we have links to such statements? Since my (and I do say myself) through look over the community forums can't find any claims to having won the case.  :-?

[Bucket]

Downix:

Posted by bbrv (Trusted user) on 20-Aug-2003 14:04:16In Reply to Comment 259:
DaveP, it is sad that it has come to this. It certainly did not need to.

The situation is as follows:

We felt we had a valid license agreement. Amiga Inc. did not and contested this. We took the appropriate legal action to resolve the disagreement. All documents associated with the resolution of this matter will be in the public domain. In the meanwhile, as we know and are comfortable with the result of this disagreement, we have added the Amiga trademarks to our website and linked to the appropriate webpage.

If someone is being "unprofessional" in this matter, it is not Genesi.

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill

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Posted by bbrv (Trusted user) on 20-Aug-2003 14:29:22In Reply to Comment 266:
Dave, we have someone working on the port now. They have DE and they have a Pegasos. We will shortly have all the sources and all the documentation associated with DE to further our efforts.

Our use of the tradmarks is valid.

As for Intent, we would be very happy to be working with Francis Charig and Tao, but that is a completely different matter.

Best regards,
R&B

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Posted by bbrv (Trusted user) on 20-Aug-2003 14:31:43In Reply to Comment 266:
P.S. To avoid any further confusion, the legal process has been settled in our favor.

Can we move on now

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So Downix, "settled" usually means that someone has won or there has been some legal result.  Still want to mince words?

[Mikey_C]

downix wrote:

I see from this message that Mr. McEwan is misreading bbrv's statements. Mr. Buck expressed confidence in the case, not saying "we've won." It's an example of reading into statements what you either want, or fear.

Beg to disagree sir.
See for yourself, on this comment: http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1061267806&category=forum&start=251#me
ssage272 Bill Buck himself says....

"Posted by bbrv (Trusted user) on 20-Aug-2003 14:31:43
In Reply to Comment 266:
P.S. To avoid any further confusion, the legal process has been settled in our favor.

Can we move on now?"

and further..
In this comment: http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1061267806&category=forum&start=251#me
ssage269
and I quote.

Posted by bbrv (Trusted user) on 20-Aug-2003 14:29:22
In Reply to Comment 266:
Dave, we have someone working on the port now. They have DE and they have a Pegasos. We will shortly have all the sources and all the documentation associated with DE to further our efforts.

Our use of the tradmarks is valid. As for Intent, we would be very happy to be working with Francis Charig and Tao, but that is a completely different matter.

Best regards,
R&B

It appears that Bill McEwen's comments do indeed appear to have some legitamacy.

Regards

Mikey C

[redrumloa]

@bloodline

AFAIK he didn't. Wayne made a comment it was getting ported, but not in this contect IIRC.


BTW you missed the last round of A500s which went pretty cheap. Don't forget this time :-D

[Troels_E]

@downix/Genesi

A few quotes from Bill Bucks posts from ANN yesterday:

"P.S. To avoid any further confusion, the legal process has been settled in our favor.
Can we move on now? "

"Dave, we have someone working on the port now. They have DE and they have a Pegasos. We will shortly have all the sources and all the documentation associated with DE to further our efforts.

Our use of the tradmarks is valid. "

Bill buck did more than express confidence in the case as you can clearly see from these quotes.

[downix]

-edit-

Not going to give the trolls any ammunition.  I'm not a lawyer, and frankly neither are the bulk of you out there.  Let's can the legal crap and discuss something more productive.

[Mikey_C]

Downix Wrote:
I don't see the conflict here, actually. You're taking 2+2 and getting 14.5 here.

Read those statements much closer, the exact terms used. "sounds like" and "is actually stated" are many times two different things, to remind you

Sorry, but to me those quotes mentioned above seem to be quite damning. I fail to see how they can be interpreted any other way.

However, it's your view point, I don't agree with it, but there you go, I guess people will have to make their mind up.

Alternatively, you could provide evidence from that ANN thread to back up your claim.

Regards

Mikey C

[Bobsonsirjonny]

I also  interperate these statemenst in the same way as Mikey C.

[Targhan]

@Red

You can make any thread into an A500 thread can't you? :-P ;-)

Don't forget to download your copy of MPlayer!!

[KennyR]

Tse, you'd think a webmaster would know how to use an open proxy...