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Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« on: October 07, 2003, 02:33:11 PM »
What happened to the Computers that were made by Acorn. I remember using them at my school, and used them until about 6 years ago, when they replaced them with PCs. I remember seeing a few advertisements and magazines and then the whole thing just fizzled out all of a sudden.

Please note: I dont actually like Acorns (i still get nightmares from them) i just want to know what happened to them. Are they still going?
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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2003, 02:50:54 PM »
You can still buy RiscOS boxes, there is still a fanbase, and I think Acorn User might still be in publication (it carried on for much longer than I expected it to, anyway).
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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2003, 02:59:03 PM »
Hey man, try this !!!
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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2003, 03:03:23 PM »
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What happened to the Computers that were made by Acorn. I remember using them at my school, and used them until about 6 years ago, when they replaced them with PCs. I remember seeing a few advertisements and magazines and then the whole thing just fizzled out all of a sudden.

Please note: I dont actually like Acorns (i still get nightmares from them) i just want to know what happened to them. Are they still going?


What school did you go to?

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2003, 03:13:34 PM »
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Hey man, try this !!!


Ah that helps a lot. This website must be pretty old or un updated cos i remember using Acorns that looked very simialt to them indeed! Thanks anyway.

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What happened to the Computers that were made by Acorn. I remember using them at my school, and used them until about 6 years ago, when they replaced them with PCs. I remember seeing a few advertisements and magazines and then the whole thing just fizzled out all of a sudden.

Please note: I dont actually like Acorns (i still get nightmares from them) i just want to know what happened to them. Are they still going?


What school did you go to?


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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2003, 03:22:21 PM »
That same thing happened at my school. I almost managed to convice them to get a bunch of A1200's too... :-/

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2003, 04:59:08 PM »
Acorn computers! Wonderful thread. OK, the two main machines I use are the Amiga and Acorns. And I have to say, I think I prefer the latter (huh!)

Ok..so this is where Acorn is today. When the company died, various people got the rights to manufacture new machines, and the OS continues to be developed by RISC OS ltd (www.riscos.com). RISC OS Ltd was originally owned by Pace but has recently been bought by Castle. Castle make the Iyonix, an Acorn compatible 600mhz RISC Intel XScale (which is an ARM chip, made under Intel licence). There's also the Microdigital (www.microdigital.co.uk) which have just released their own Acorn compatible machine called the Omega. The latest version of RISC OS is the supremely reliable and lovely RISC OS v4 Select. The Acorn world (or more correctly, the RISC OS world) is looking very rosey in terms of operating system, in terms of quality and fast hardware - yet it faces the problem of market share. Although Caste and Microdigital are shifting quite a few boxes they are mainly to the loyal fan base. I expect a similar thing might happen to Amiga.

Anyway, to regularly updated news sites are

www.drobe.co.uk
www.iconbar.co.uk

I myself have a StrongARM RiscPC running at 233mhz which I use for all my internet stuff, word processing, DTP and gaming. I love the machine actually, wonderful to program and most importantly of all a very highly educated young user base. I advise you to buy one. 8-)  :-D
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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2003, 05:37:23 PM »
Ahh the Acorns - We had several Archimedes at my school too (Long Eaton School, I left wayyyyy back in 1991 !!)

I remember there were demos of the machine - one of which was called 'a meagre demo' - spot the pun - essentially the Boing Ball Demo - it matched the Amiga Version - flicker free !

They had superior sound too - 7/8 channel wave synth, mappable over 256 positions across the stereo image, it could also 256 colours (earlier models, like the a300/a400/ a3000 (the one in an Amiga 500 stylee box).

They clocked at 12MHz, and were still quick enough to emulate a PC-XT at reasonable speed !

I even got as far as to try my hand at ARM assembly - piece of p1ss !
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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2003, 05:47:27 PM »
We had Acorns too at our school, networked to BBC Micros, which we used for COMAL. The Acorns did BBC emulation, so every class everyone used to race into the room to get an Acorn unstead of a crappy old BBC - especially since most of 'em still had greenscreen monitors.

And this was 1995 or so!

Some bright spark found Lemmings for Acorn and we spent many a lunchtime playing it. The Amiga version kicked its ass in every way, but the Amiga version wasn't system friendly and didn't run from hard drive.
 

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2003, 05:59:22 PM »
if you're in the UK there's a piece about the history of acorn in this week's Micromart

Eventually articles make it to their website - try later this week

Edit: The article is on-line now!
 

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2003, 06:16:46 PM »
Most of my school lunchtimes were taken up playng chocks away, sometimes in 2 player ;).

Riscos, at least back then was very much god awful, horid to look at and use (I cant imagine its changed that much) . Nearest comparable os is Geos i guess ;).

Ive had emulation on my pc for some time so i can still play those old games at home ;).
 

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2003, 06:36:04 PM »
We had some ugly macs.. i guess it was II se like this one:


Was awful slow, running mac os7.... They keept crashing while browsing the web with them..  :-)
 

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2003, 07:00:58 PM »
Yes, I spent quite a lot of time playing Lemmings at school - until they banned it (but this didn't stop us, it just went "underground" and was only played while no teachers were around, with a finger wavering over the power button)

RISC OS is a lovely OS.  Okay, version 2 was a bit dodgy, but 3.x is fantastic.  The save requester involves dragging an icon into the filer window where you want to save it (why has nobody copied this? It's logical), and loading is done by dragging the file into the program window or double clicking.  There are no "traditional" file requesters.  All file associations are made with a (and I admit I had to look this up) Set Alias$@RunType_XXX .  File typing is a bit Mac-style, using a three-digit hex number for each type, and associating this with a more readable name (with Set File$Type), consequently - like on the Mac - you lose the file types if you start playing with files on a different OS/FS.  Applications are just ordinary directories with names beginning with an exclamation mark, the file within these called "!Boot" is run as soon as you open the dir containing the app.  "!Run" is executed when you double-click on the application.  This is very neat, as any files the application needs can be stored within the application directory, and referenced with "." (similar to Amiga's "PROGDIR:").  The icon is stored in !Sprites or !Sprites22 normally, but this can be changed with IconSprites in !Boot.  IconSprites can also be used to replace any element of the GUI, you just need a sprite file containing sprites with the correct names.

The device (disk) naming always struck me as a bit longwinded, rather than on Windows and AmigaOS where you get a logical device name, RISC OS devices just join together the filesystem and unit, so you get something like ADFS::0.$ or CDFS::4.$.  The other annoyance is that the requesters block the rest of the system, as do BASIC programs if they are not RISC OS centric, but other than that the multi-tasking is as good as Exec's (if not better).  Oh, and the filesystem supports 880K disks (and 1.6MB, which it will happily format DD disks to), like the Amiga, but with 10 char filename limit.  I'm not sure if Acorn used a standard FDC to achieve this, but they could certainly also read/write DOS disks.

The UI is also very good, with iconification of all windows (shift-click the close gadget), the menu (including multi-select) being on the middle button, no windows get focus unless there is a good reason for it (like a string gadget to fill in).  If you want a backdrop picture, drag the picture in question out to the Pinboard (which works like Workbench's backdrop), middle-click to get the menu, and "set as backdrop", which is intuitive.  Again, I'm surprised that feature hasn't been copied.

I think it is a model for good OS design in a lot of places.  I would seriously consider moving over to it from AmigaOS if it was more active than the Amiga market.  My investment (hardware and software) is with the Amiga though, and I have a lot to lose to consider moving to yet another "dead" platform.

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2003, 07:22:32 PM »
We always had mac's here too. Awful machines they were at school. Never stable. Horribly slow and the worst to browse the web on. (Netscape and MacOS 7.1 yuk!) I've never even seen an Acorn, sounds like they were pretty kickin machines though for the time, much like our Amigas.
 

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Re: Whatever Happened to the Acorn range of computers?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2003, 08:01:48 PM »
For a picture of the more recent OS (v 4) which I hope might dispel some of your views that RISC OS is an ugly os (yes, Arthur was, v2 was - in much the same way os Workbench 1.2 was) visit this..

http://www.houseofmabel.co.uk/puters/RISCOS4/full/standard.png

Now, go and buy one. They're lovely, responsive machines with a very solid and stable OS and some truly excellent software. And the community is fantastic. A lot of people remember these as school machines or learning toys - the success of them in British and commonwealth schools has actually been a little unfortunate in hindsite.
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