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Offline Crispy_Beef

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Re: AOL lays off Netscape browser team
« Reply #14 from previous page: July 17, 2003, 01:41:29 PM »
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How ironic, given that I've just installed Netscape 7.1! I'm not sanguine about trusting development to a volunteer force, however enthusiastic they may be



Hmmm, you do know about how Mozilla and Netscape 7.x are connected don't you?  In fact you'd probably have a more stable browser free of all the crap that AOL slapped onto Netscape if you went with Moz.

As I mentioned above, I think you'd likle Firebird if you gave it a go.  :-)
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Re: AOL lays off Netscape browser team
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2003, 07:33:29 PM »
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I've looked at installing Mozilla, but much as wilh Linux as an OS, it looks more like a browser for programmers/hackers/uber tech-heads than ordinary users.

um.. It looks exactly like netscape  :-P Just that mozilla has a few more features..  Netscape is entirely based on on Mozilla...
 

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Re: AOL lays off Netscape browser team
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2003, 10:26:01 PM »
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Hmmm, you do know about how Mozilla and Netscape 7.x are connected don't you?

Uh, yeah, I thought that was implied in my message, i.e. concern that without the official Netscape team, development would be solely on the backs of whoever wanted to do the development.  Not that that is necessarily a bad situation, but making cash has proven to be a wonderful motive for productivity! :-)

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In fact you'd probably have a more stable browser free of all the crap that AOL slapped onto Netscape if you went with Moz.

Such as?  Okay, there's the IM which I have no need for and the various AOHell ads (severely limited in the 7.1 release, btw), but I don't see anything else other than helper apps, which one can take or leave.

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As I mentioned above, I think you'd likle Firebird if you gave it a go.

Go given.  Ennnh.  I don't notice the much touted speed increase, though the rendering engine does allow for smoother scrolling via mouse wheel.  I like how there's less space allocated to controls, but then again I miss the niceties of having a throbber (sometimes the only way you can tell the browser is working!), being able to print a page by just clicking the icon, and the useful aspect of not needing a separate search box other than the URL box.  These are probably configurable with either the right theme or adding to a config file or something, but if so, then why not just make such configurability a part of the interface?  The themeing, which would otherwise be a compelling reason to switch, is more than a little wonky, and shared codebase or no, NS 7.1 has actually added useful functions that don't exist in Firebird 0.6 (one example: having your homepage come up when NS starts, but not when you open a new window or a tab).  Maybe Firebird surpasses NS 7.1 eventually, but in my humble, it ain't ready for prime-time yet.
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Re: AOL kills Netscape
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2003, 10:43:34 PM »
@ Norm:

To be fair, the Register's article trashed all three sides:  AOL, Microsoft AND Mozilla.  In my humble, this is the heart of the piece:

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On the one hand, the corrupt suits at AOL failed to appreciate the majesty of the Mozilla code, pulled features (such as blocking pop-up windows which AOL's advertisers loved, but users hated), forked willy-nilly, adding adware where they could, and generally betrayed the Great Project.

On the other hand, when a killer app was needed in haste, the Mozilla team wandered off into Lotus-eating land and spent four years creating esoteric frameworks and note-perfect bug tracking systems that only a nerd could appreciate.

Both these points of view are caricatures, of course.

But techno-utopians tend to get lost in their fabulous daydreams, sometimes. They forget that these browser things are just tools, and browsers are just windows onto the web, so a graceful XUL framework means diddly-squat to the innocent punter. Creating a neat C++ framework when what the world needs a non-Microsoft browser is nothing but a deriliction of duty: a piece of vanity code. What we Brits call pointless "willy waving".
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Re: AOL lays off Netscape browser team
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2003, 12:02:07 AM »
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um.. It looks exactly like netscape

Well shut mah mouth and sho-nuff.  I have no idea what I was looking at before, but de damn ting downloaded and installed as easy as you please, including recognizing and using my NS profile.  Can't say ####e against that!

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Just that mozilla has a few more features.

Well, at least you can get more skins, though at first look it does seem to share the NS flaw of each new version needing an updated skin version as well (WTF?).  Otherwise, NS and Mozilla seem identical.  Seems like there's life after "Netscape" after all.
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