New OS4 screenshots

[Warface]

To be honest I like these clean ones much better than those with that brushed steel bg. Is it a dream that they will get rid of that mac like brushed steel pattern completely? :-) (I mean AmiDock)

Much better: resembles strikingly to OS3.1 yet feels much more modern. A move in the right direction I say :-)

[Alkemyst]

o be honest I like these clean ones much better than those with that brushed steel bg. Is it a dream that they will get rid of that mac like brushed steel pattern completely? (I mean AmiDock)

Yes that brushed metal that is used dont look good, but i do like the brushed metal used in Macos-X

[Vincent]

Warface commented:
Much better: resembles strikingly to OS3.1 yet feels much more modern. A move in the right direction I say :-)

That's the best description I've seen for these new pictures.  Sums it up very nicely indeed :-)

[mikeymike]

Two things worry me about the third screenshot:

1 - why is the date 1978? [DOPUS window]

2 - why is CPU usage at 100%?

I think the reason for 2) is that DOPUS is a bit crap at letting the CPU go.

[Giovanni]

@Quixote

The drop down arrow looks a little awkward, but it's probably one of the details still to be addressed.

That's not the fault of the OS4 team. MakeCD uses the Triton GUI toolkit, which does not use for every gadget gadtools/intuition. What would help is a rewrite of MakeCD to use a ReAction GUI.

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No diggity...

[Vincent]

The date is probably at 1978 because that's the default date when the time prefs haven't been loaded.

[KennyR]

2 - why is CPU usage at 100%?

I think the reason for 2) is that DOPUS is a bit crap at letting the CPU go.

Assuming they're using 68k emulation, this is what happens on MOS too. 68k CPU use tests are worthless under integrated 68k emulation. Although I'm not a coder and can't tell you why. ;-)

[Karlos]

I think Kenny beat me to that :-) Also, the original exec.library didn't have any proper accouting so I guess most applications measured CPU with their own code. Probably the code that measures the use just doesn't work under the JIT.

One other possibility is that the CPU really is at 100% - grabbing the framebuffer to a file could easily swallow up all the CPU for a short time...

Moving on, I have to say its all shaping up a treat :-D

[redfox]

Yes, very nice indeed!  :-D

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[DethKnight]

1 - why is the date 1978? [DOPUS window]

My Amiga 500 would do that after every reboot

UNTIL I put in an adram540 I think it was, which had a working battery and/or RTC on it.

edit - 1 more opinion...
The only place that drab solid gray color would be on my desktop, would be ONLY in a 3Dmodeler program, but the brush-metal look looks ok in the dock area.

[chris]

In the first shot, some of labels in the windows have underscores under one letter. This suggests that it will be possible to navigate through the window, activating gadgets, etcetera, with the keyboard, instead of having to switch to the mouse repeatedly.

You have been able to do that for a while, Reaction suppots it anyway, and I think some of the GadTools gadgets have supported it since 3.0.

Chris

[teo]

Assuming they're using 68k emulation, this is what happens on MOS too. 68k CPU use tests are worthless under integrated 68k emulation. Although I'm not a coder and can't tell you why

The following is a complete guess as im no emulation expert, so feel free to correct me. My guess is that the underlying OS only gives the emulated 68k process as much cycles as needed and nothing extra, hence its always using 100% of its perceived available CPU power.

[ikir]

Very nice :-)

[Warface]

Yes that brushed metal that is used dont look good, but i do like the brushed metal used in Macos-X

Exactly. In OSX it's nice, but obviously OS4 doesn't have the swarm of graphicians (either in quality and quantity) OSX has... :-) This clean design is much better! (Blue and gray frames, light gray window interiors... I like it!)

[Herewegoagain]

The following is a complete guess as im no emulation expert, so feel free to correct me. My guess is that the underlying OS only gives the emulated 68k process as much cycles as needed and nothing extra, hence its always using 100% of its perceived available CPU power

That's kind of what I was thinking.  Like Ramdisk showing 100% full.

[Quixote]

Chris chimed in:

You have been able to do that for a while, Reaction suppots it anyway, and I think some of the GadTools gadgets have supported it since 3.0.

;-) From what I've noticed, the preference editors in OS 3.9 will have these for the buttons at the bottom of the window, but nowhere else.  The OS 4.0 screen shots show every gadget equipped with them.