OS4 to be shown at Amiwest

[JurassicCamper]

@downix

He was pointing out only that AOS4 has some stiff competition. Of course, for the first time we can do a head-to-head comparison of MOS vs AOS4.
And to note, *ALL* of MOS is PPC native, not just sections.

Your own statement also contradicts your comparison idea.

How can you compare a part ppc OS4 running on a cyberstorm to ppc MOS on a pegasos.
I can see it know.  
The Morphos possie will be shouting from the trees oh we got 30FPS more using quake timedemo.

[Rassilon]

Moderated: Off-topic, Flame

[Damion]

Well I'll be interested in trying 'BOTH' OS"s
as I will be attending AmiWest...

Wayne if you need live interviews look no
further, I would be more than happy to
pass along my 'first response' to the systems.

[Rassilon]

It is good to see that many posts in this topic have been moderated, on both sides.

There is one post however that seems to have escaped moderation.

The post in question is downix's refering to the status of PPC modules within OS4.

The fact that my reply to it was moderated as a flame (for which I agree it was) I feel downix's should also have been.

Why... you may argue that downix's post was merely stating a fact, if you take that stance then my post was also fact.

Rassilon

[JurassicCamper]

@Rassilon

now now dont upset the moderators... they're biased

[Warface]

The Morphos possie will be shouting from the trees oh we got 30FPS more using quake timedemo.

Quake has very little to do with the underlying OS... :-)

However, nice to see the moderators are in place. After all that this thread seems to become a nice one. Good job!

[Warface]

now now dont upset the moderators... they're biased

Sure. That's why they moderated out the MOS rants too...

[alx]

Quake has very little to do with the underlying OS :-)

Exactly - don't expect a Cyberstorm PPC to be quicker than a Peg :-)

[redrumloa]

now now dont upset the moderators... they're biased

Oh? Would you care to elaborate or is this simply a blatant troll? Please do tell. i want you to name every single moderator by name and what his bias is. Please do so, otherwise you might get labeled a troll. You wouldnt want that now would you?

Edit: here is a quick list to make this easier on you.
Wayne
Kent
Kees
Argo
SilvrDrgn
ltstanfo
AmiNTT
TheMagicM
redrumloa
Targhan
JamesR
Skippy
mikeymike

[Kronos]

Your own statement also contradicts your comparison idea.

How can you compare a part ppc OS4 running on a cyberstorm to ppc MOS on a pegasos.

Mmmh, you can compare, how "finished" both are, on what HW they run, what features
they offer, how stable they are, how good they look, what native SW exist ....

I'll expect quake to run just as fast on MorphOS as on OS4, when both use the same HW,
and have all SW needed for that available in PPC.

Just how long it will be between the 1st and the 2nd to reach that point is a rather
different question.

[JurassicCamper]

You wouldnt want that now would you?

You do as you feel necessary, If it helps you sleep at night so be it. However, when I posted my comment I would just like to point out that only the 1 post had been moderated leaving all the anti-amiga comments (pro morphos) in place. I'm glad to see that these have now been moderated properly.

maybe i'll add a smiley next time.

[Hooligan_DCS]

Just read the thread. Actually pretty much EVERYTHING should have been moderated away being **off topic** (including this one)  with a few exceptions.

[System]

Just read the thread. Actually pretty much EVERYTHING should have been moderated away being **off topic** (including this one) with a few exceptions.

Hi Hooligan

I agree, and would like to thank my moderation staff for their help.  All of this took place last night while I was away from the computer and without their help, this would have been a much sadder thread than it turned out to be.

OS4 being shown in the US -- whether on CSPPC or the AmigaOne -- is a positive (and very rare apparently) thing.

OS4 being shown, for really the first time in the same place as the Pegasos so that people can get a hands-on with both is a positive thing (for the community).

Show attendees being able to play with both systems and for THE FIRST TIME EVER being able to make up their own minds based on the systems in front of them -- not forums and FUD, is a good thing.

The idea that we MIGHT be able to massively hook the show up with DSL for the first time ever is a good thing..

The fact that there are ANY shows still happening to promote the Amiga after everything that we as a community have been put through is a good thing...

So let's stop all the negative crap and look at the positives in this situation.  Just make plans to attend the show and go with an open mind, in whatever direction that takes you.  That should make your experience with either system much, much more enjoyable.

[Hooligan_DCS]

/me wish there won't be any wars between camps at the show. It's ugly when nerds collide :-)

[jd997uk]

@Wayne

OS4 being shown in the US -- whether on CSPPC or the AmigaOne -- is a positive (and very rare apparently) thing.

OS4 being shown, for really the first time in the same place as the Pegasos so that people can get a hands-on with both is a positive thing (for the community).

Show attendees being able to play with both systems and for THE FIRST TIME EVER being able to make up their own minds based on the systems in front of them -- not forums and FUD, is a good thing.

The idea that we MIGHT be able to massively hook the show up with DSL for the first time ever is a good thing..

The fact that there are ANY shows still happening to promote the Amiga after everything that we as a community have been put through is a good thing...

So let's stop all the negative crap and look at the positives in this situation. Just make plans to attend the show and go with an open mind, in whatever direction that takes you. That should make your experience with either system much, much more enjoyable

Good call. It would be a Really Good Thing™ if we could all get with the program and actually look forward to the show, rather than bicker about (rather sadly) tired issues.

If you can get the DSL hookup sorted, that would be an excellent thing and would certainly get me glued to the screen all night (hey, I'm in London, there's an 8 hour difference).

Wayne: If this does happen, how about sorting out Q & A's with some of the announced people, using questions supplies by A.Org users?

-john

[z5]

OS4 being shown in the US -- whether on CSPPC or the AmigaOne -- is a positive (and very rare apparently) thing. OS4 being shown, for really the first time in the same place as the Pegasos so that people can get a hands-on with both is a positive thing (for the community).

I will make a prediction. OS4 will not be in such an advanced state as MorphOs (understandably because development started much later). OS4 will not run on AOne (something that we know NOW).

Genesi will have a lot of machines running MorphOS 1.4 on Pegasos while OS4 will be shown on maybe 2 or 3 A4000's.

MophOs users will trash OS4 because they did a more impressive show (normal with their Pegasos and flatscreens and nice cases, t-shirts and eyecandy...), because OS4 feels slower (normal because hardware is slower), because it is in a more advanced state (normal as OS4 dev started much later), because it doesn't run on PPC completely,, because AOne only runs linux,... (all  the usual stuff that has been discussed on and on)

Somehow, in their comparison, MorpOS users will forget that the one system is for sale and that the other isn't finished yet. (OS4 ppl would probably do the same though, at least the die-hards)

Showing them together will just start new flame wars, new attacks from both parties,...

The only good comparison would have been OS4 on AOne and MorpOS on Pegasos.

And even then...there is no Amiga community anymore. There is a MorphOs crowd and an OS4 crowd. And both can't handle the fact that the other exists (which is kind of sad really). Very few people seem to be open for both systems.

I really don't see any point in MorpOS people going on and on about OS4, and OS4 ppl going on about MorphOS.

But sadly, looking at the forums, the situation is only getting worse.

So in short, it will be an unfair comparison which will lead to more of the same.
 :-(